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  1. by   Not_A_Hat_Person
    In related news, the US Dept of Education is revoking its recognition of the Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools (ACICS), which accredits the vast majority of for-profit schools. The affected schools have 18 months to find new accreditation before their students no longer qualify for federal funds, including student loans and Pell Grants .

    The accrediting body responsible for holding a large number of for-profit schools accountable — including the recently shuttered ITT Tech, and the now-bankrupt Corinthian Colleges — received some bad news this week. The U.S. Department of Education has terminated its federal recognition.

    The Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools (ACICS) is the largest accreditor in the U.S. and is itself a non-profit, but many of the schools it provides accreditation to are for-profit institutions.

    The ACICS came under increased scrutiny after the collapse of Corinthian Colleges in 2015, with regulators asking how the accreditor missed apparently obvious red flags. If ACICS had pulled CCI’s accreditation, it could have stopped billions in federal aid money going to these schools.
  2. by   smartnurse1982
    Quote from Rose_Queen
    And if everyone does go to college, who's left to do the jobs that don't require a degree? All those people who did go to college and are now fighting for those same jobs with a lot more people (if they even made it through). And with a boatload of debt to boot.
    Isn't the same thing happening with nursing with the Bsn push?
  3. by   Guy in Babyland
    Quote from Buyer beware
    I'll tell you how. It's about social Darwinism. If you start with cohort class #1 of 100 students and 4-6 years later only 20 students actually graduate and the majority of them pass the NCLEX, then you have a great passing percentage. The question then is: What the hell happened to the 80% of the starting cohort that didn't make it to graduation?
    The problem with many nurses is that even simple math and number evaluation skills are beyond them. This allows many-profits to tout their NCLEX scores in spite of the fact that they are meaningless when not looked at in context with graduation and retention rates. It is in this area where the true strips of the for-profits are revealed as just expensive loan mills that run through students like you know what through a goose.
    I would rather see a school that starts out with 100 and graduates 20 quality graduates than a school that graduates 100 just to get as much tuition money as possible and have those graduates come to this site wondering why they haven't passed NCLEX after 5 attempts.
  4. by   TheCommuter
    Quote from Not_A_Hat_Person
    In related news, the US Dept of Education is revoking its recognition of the Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools (ACICS), which accredits the vast majority of for-profit schools. The affected schools have 18 months to find new accreditation before their students no longer qualify for federal funds, including student loans and Pell Grants .
    The federal government is cracking down on the investor-owned career schools' primary source of cash flow by making this important move.

    As a side note, the school that granted my ASN degree is a shady investor-owned entity with accreditation from the ACICS. I am so glad I was able to 'launder' the credits I earned from this school by earning a CCNE-accredited BSN degree from a regionally accredited school.
  5. by   Rose_Queen
    Quote from smartnurse1982
    Isn't the same thing happening with nursing with the Bsn push?
    No, it's the same license and same scope of
    practice. However, with the push to go to college, who is going to enter the skilled trades like plumbing or welding?
  6. by   SummitRN
    Quote from Guy in Babyland
    I would rather see a school that starts out with 100 and graduates 20 quality graduates than a school that graduates 100 just to get as much tuition money as possible and have those graduates come to this site wondering why they haven't passed NCLEX after 5 attempts.
    How is that any better??? In your ideal school 80% of students pay money and get nothing... ITT was doing that to. The for profits commonly had 30-50% of their students fail to complete the program.

    I'd rather see a school that selects 100 QUALIFIED applicants, graduates 95+% of them from a GREAT PROGRAM, and then 95+% of those pass NCLEX on their first try.
  7. by   rnccf2007
    Sad. Read about this in my local newspaper. I graduated from Youngstown College of Business and Professional Drafting (now ITT) in 1984 when I was 19 years old. Even back then they were "shady." Found this out related to misquoted tuition amounts. I am surprised that ITT has lasted so long. To all nursing students...please only apply to a reputable community college or university.
  8. by   PsychGuy
    Progress!

    When will they close U Phoenix?
  9. by   Not_A_Hat_Person
    Quote from Rose_Queen
    No, it's the same license and same scope of
    practice. However, with the push to go to college, who is going to enter the skilled trades like plumbing or welding?
    From what I've seen, their relatives. I'm from Boston, where the trades are a closed shop.
  10. by   RNBSN1000
    When will they close Platt? and Virginia College?

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