Inept nurses free to work in new locales

  1. 4 Lax regulators allow harmful workers to lose licenses in one state, keep them in others.

    ...Connecticut health officials discovered that Wilson had fallen asleep, then ignored -- or possibly turned off -- ventilator alarms that signaled the boy was not getting enough oxygen, state records show.

    And Jexier, they learned, was not the first child to die under Wilson's care. Seven months earlier, she had lost her registered nursing license in Florida for similar lapses in the death of another boy in 2002. In that case, 21-month-old Thierry LaMarque Jr. had stopped breathing while Wilson was caring for him at her Orlando home. Instead of calling 911, she tried CPR, then drove the boy's limp body three miles to his parents' house....

    ...Such breakdowns are readily fixable. Yet state regulators aren't using their powers to seek out this information, or act on what they find, the investigation found.

    Florida officials, for instance, didn't notify Connecticut authorities when they sanctioned Wilson -- even though she'd told them that she also held a Connecticut license. And Connecticut's nursing board renewed Wilson's license three times after Thierry's death, relying on her pledge that she hadn't been disciplined or investigated elsewhere....

    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...242,full.story
  2. Visit  herring_RN profile page

    About herring_RN

    herring_RN has '>40 years' year(s) of experience and specializes in 'Critical care, tele, Medical-Surgical'. From 'California, USA'; Joined Mar '04; Posts: 14,207; Likes: 25,446.

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  3. Visit  Ultim0 profile page
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    What we have here is a failure to communicate.
  4. Visit  dgenthusiast profile page
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    Just sick.
  5. Visit  cjcsoon2brn profile page
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    Some seriously scary... stuff. Not the word I really want to say but it will do for now.

    !Chris
  6. Visit  PostOpPrincess profile page
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    She had a license to begin with?

    UGH.
  7. Visit  MaxAttack profile page
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    She should be charged with manslaughter and gross negligence. She deserves to be behind bars.

    Luckily, this isn't a very common occurrence, even in California. 177 is definitely 177 more than excusable, but only works out to about 0.05% of the nursing population.
    Orca and lindarn like this.
  8. Visit  lee1 profile page
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    national license might help, then when there is an issue, the license is gone for good
    presey, regularRN, Orca, and 3 others like this.
  9. Visit  samadams8 profile page
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    Wow


    You know what burns me is that there are plenty of RNs that get blacklisted/blackballed to some degree b/c of personality BS issues-- and stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with competence, morality, ethics, etc.

    So here's an incompetent boob that just gets passed along, whereas a good enough number of good or even great nurses get shunned or "listed" (behind the scenes mind you) b/c of BS reasons.

    If I ever get rich I am going to post this question in mass surveys across the country.

    I have yet to figure why this is allowed to go on while idiots are passed along or even promoted.

    Can any nurse ANYWHERE please explain this to me?
    scoochy, rph3664, leslie :-D, and 4 others like this.
  10. Visit  eriksoln profile page
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    Very easy to be angry with the nurse. She was dishonest and lazy......at best. She'll have to answer for all that come judgment day. I would not want that on my resume when it is time to meet the maker.

    Focusing our energy on her is a waste though. She is not the problem. Well........she IS the problem, but she is not the one who should be focused on with regards to these incidents.

    The BONs who did not communicate that this person's license had been revoked are every bit as "inept". With the technology that exists today, there is not excuse for such a lax approach to checking credentials. They, as well as her did not perform their responsibilities. They are in charge of keeping nurses like this out of work. I could understand if she had changed her name or falsified documents, but she simply clicked "no" to the question about disciplinary actions and that was all it took to slip through. How amateur can you be?

    As usual, budget cuts and mismanagement lead to these two BONs being subpar. Yet, for some reason, when something goes wrong.......everyone is after the nurse (as they should be) but forgets everyone else's part in things. How about bringing the people from the BON office to trial as well as her.

    That, at least, would be a step in the right direction towards solving the problem. Instead of letting all the blame fall on the nurse. No one hesitates to preach about accountability to nurses, yet the people directly responsible for avoiding these exact situations get off the hook.
    scoochy, cjcsoon2brn, and leslie :-D like this.
  11. Visit  creaturesmom profile page
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    There are multiple articles with a similar theme on the website- propublica. If the BON's are not going to check then why do I have to jump through multiple hoops and pay multiple fees every time I want a new state license (I am a travel nurse ). In this age of technology is shouldn't be to difficult to have problem nurses listed on the state license page
    Not_A_Hat_Person likes this.
  12. Visit  Orca profile page
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    Having had some experience with the Florida BON, this doesn't surprise me. A few years ago I planned to return to my native Florida, and I filled out an application for a license by reciprocity. I wanted to hand deliver the application during a trip to Florida to save time, but there was absolutely zero contact information on it for the BON - no phone number, no street address. Same thing on the website. The mailing address was a post office box. Through my sister (an RN in Florida) I got the address and I went to the office. The employees seemed shocked to see me, and they were more interested in finding out how I located their office than in helping me. When I later called to check on the status of my application (I got the number while I was at the office) I was rudely told not to call again, that I would be notified when everything was done - not very useful when you're trying to coordinate a possible cross-country move. I have never dealt with a state agency as secretive or unresponsive as the Florida BON - and I have worked for four state agencies myself.

    I hope they have improved things since then.
  13. Visit  rph3664 profile page
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    Quote from samadams8
    Wow


    You know what burns me is that there are plenty of RNs that get blacklisted/blackballed to some degree b/c of personality BS issues-- and stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with competence, morality, ethics, etc.

    So here's an incompetent boob that just gets passed along, whereas a good enough number of good or even great nurses get shunned or "listed" (behind the scenes mind you) b/c of BS reasons.

    If I ever get rich I am going to post this question in mass surveys across the country.

    I have yet to figure why this is allowed to go on while idiots are passed along or even promoted.

    Can any nurse ANYWHERE please explain this to me?
    This kind of thing goes on in all fields, not just nursing.

    I don't get it either.

    As for the idiots, in the final moments of the movie "The Decline of Western Civilization Part II: The Metal Years", Ozzy Osbourne says, "You meet a lot of people on the way up. Don't F them, because you're going to meet them all again on the way back down."
  14. Visit  ellakate profile page
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    "You meet a lot of people on the way up. Don't F them, because you're going to meet them all again on the way back down." Ozzy Osborne

    That is what is happening in my life. Only I have stayed in the same place. Those who were not nice to me on the way up, beware.

    Quite seriously, at my last job, there was a nurse who came from another state. That was one dumb person. I questioned HR whether the nurse were licensed. Yes, in a compact state. I searched that state's licensure website; nursing was on the same page as trucking licenses, etc.

    I have deep fear of being called upon to supervise a wild card. In almost all situations, as RN, I will be asked to supervise other care givers. If the state can't figure out whose bent, how can I?

    Too much to ponder. I am taking up tax preparation.


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