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No. 10
Old Jun 23, 2009, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherybaby View Post
"While the current recession has encouraged some who had left the profession to return, about 100,000 positions remain unfilled."

Someone want to let me know where they are?
AMEN to that sister!
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No. 11
Old Jun 23, 2009, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ghillbert View Post
Sigh - this gets really boring. I'm sure this EXACT Obama quote was posted in an article previously and we already had this whole argument.

PS: EmilyLucille - a new grad is not equivalent to an experienced RN - the shortage is in experienced/specialty nurses.

Signed - a foreigner.
Then give us new grads a chance to get the experience needed in that area first. We are not dumb, we can figure it out.
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No. 12
from Cay
Old Jun 23, 2009, 10:52 AM

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Companies have moved their plants/ jobs to foreign countries! Thousands of jobs have been lost due to this. Why bring in people to take our JOBS!! We must train "our new" grads with pride to do their jobs. Keep American Citizens Employed! No to importing people to take our JOBS!!!!!!!
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No. 13
from nicurn001
Old Jun 23, 2009, 12:41 PM

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I always understood that the USA has a capitalist economy where supply and demand led to market forces setting the value for goods and services , why is it that this doesn't appear to apply to nursing ?.If there is a shortage of CEO's we continue to raise their salaries to attract , the high caliber of people who helped create our present economy !.
We have area's of the country that have a shortage of nurses , rather than try to attract nurses to the area with the benefits necessary , employers would rather seek experienced nurses from countries ,exporting our nursing shortage to them .
If you make it attractive for nurses to come to you , they will come .
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No. 14
from nicurn001
Old Jun 23, 2009, 12:49 PM

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PLEASE , PLEASE , PLEASE do not turn this thread into a futile debate on whether foreign nurses are qualified , or due to whatever percieved challenge they present (cultural/ languaue differences ).
All nurses wherever they are from have to meet the state BON requirements as to course content and have to pass the NCLEX exam . If you meet the requirements you are entitled to call yourself a nurse and seek employment as a nurse .
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No. 15
from Akinna
Old Jun 23, 2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by casper1 View Post
With unemployment soon to reach 10% many Americans are looking for steady jobs with good pay and benefits. Funds should be utilized to expand educational opportunities for future potential nurses. I work with nurses who have chosen nursing as a second career, former policemen, teachers, construction workers, displaced factory workers, the pool of potential recruits to the profession is endless. World Healthcare organizations have warned against American recruitment of skilled foreign Health care workers. Many of these workers are recruited from poor countries who also have a inadequate supply of trained professional.
I would like to bring above article to your attention, and if someone could research nurses websites concerning the huge difficulties to find a nursing job for fresh graduates.
The article in newsweek gives the interpretation that in this country we are not willing to do nursing job.
This is far from the truth.
Most new grad nurses beg for a job, and many months goes by without any result.
The problem is two fold, the first year of RN must work in pair with another RN. This is expensive for the hospitals, so they deeply cut back on their new grad positions.
But yes, Americans are ready and willing to do the job, if only they would have a place to begin.
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from Akinna
Old Jun 23, 2009, 01:46 PM

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http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/...temp_top+story

Originally Posted by casper1 View Post
With unemployment soon to reach 10% many Americans are looking for steady jobs with good pay and benefits. Funds should be utilized to expand educational opportunities for future potential nurses. I work with nurses who have chosen nursing as a second career, former policemen, teachers, construction workers, displaced factory workers, the pool of potential recruits to the profession is endless. World Healthcare organizations have warned against American recruitment of skilled foreign Health care workers. Many of these workers are recruited from poor countries who also have a inadequate supply of trained professional.
anyone commented on Newsweek pages to voice nursing staff problem?
The new grads have little chance to get trained soon after graduation.
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No. 17
from DolceVita
Old Jun 23, 2009, 02:27 PM

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I have just checked the graduate employment reports for the three major schools in my area, including mine, and for 2008 the lowest percent employment was 98.1%. I will be very interested to see what 2009 will look like. By the way, for LPNs it was only 83%.

What I am glad about is that the article was specific in the area where it says there is a nursing shortage -- long term care.

I think that shipping in nurses, in large numbers, from other countries is a bad idea. This is nothing to do with their language or any other ability. It removes the incentive for us to come up with an organic solution.
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No. 18
from lee1
Old Jun 23, 2009, 02:30 PM

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The issue of importing "foreign nurses" to fill vacancy shortages has been going on for more than 40 years. Yes, in some sense it is all about the money and in another sense it is about bringing in nurses who do NOT question their working conditions, etc. etc. They don't rock the boat and the managers who hire them love the fact that they do their work, don't ask too many questions, do what they are told. How would you like to work with a whole group of Nurses who because of their cultural heritage do NOT ask questions, rock the boat, empower themselves or their peers ????
On the other hand many are very good nurses, but becoming part of the Americanized culture (primarily women) takes many years to develop the trust/ empowerment that comes with being raised "American"
I agree that the problem of having too many qualified applicants who are "American", born here, whatever culture they come from or came from legally is the BIG issue. More professors, paid decent, competitive salaries, benefits is what we need NOW. At least Obama has that right.
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No. 19
from nicurn001
Old Jun 23, 2009, 03:42 PM

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lee1 , it is true that foreign nurses are less likely to rock the boat ,it may also be correct that some may do this due to cultural differences , but the vast majority of foreign nurses keep their heads down because their visa specifies their place of work . If the foreign nurse loses their job for whatever reason , they lose their visa and are liable for deportation if they remain here without a visa , that is a great incentive to not rock the boat .
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