HPV Vaccination of Males Not Cost-Effective - page 3

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  1. Visit  PeachPie profile page
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    Quote from birdgardner
    If the entire female population were vaccinated, and everyone were heterosexual, it wouldn't be necessary to vaccinate the boys to protect the girls.

    Boys and men who have same-sex intercourse are at risk for anal and throat cancer.
    Even with heterosexual sex, they still have the risk of oral cancer. And yes, I have a homosexual friend who got rectal cancer who totally endorses Gardasil for both males and females.

    I honestly call BS on the "not cost-effective" angle of this. If women were asymptomatic carriers of a disease that risked men's penises, they'd vaccinate us no matter what the cost.
    Kringe38, DolceVita, lizmatt, and 3 others like this.
  2. Visit  CRIMSON profile page
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    What a load of horse crap! This is just another excuse to lay all responsible on the women. It is a very prevelant disease and if we are going to vaccinate for it, it should be both sexes as the disease affects both sexes. Granted I feel the vaccine needs further testing and tweeking.
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  3. Visit  abbaking profile page
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    As a male victim of HPV, I understand the confusion out there about HPV and low/High risk strains of the virus....
    From what I have read and the professionals I have spoken with Low Risk Strains of HPV (the primary strains responsible for genital warts) - pose mimimal risk of the development of cancer.
    High Risk Strains usually do not show warts.
    HIgh Risk strains of HPV....usually affecting females can lead to the delelopment of cervical and certain gynocological cancers.

    Strains 6 and 11 of HPV are the primary strains causing genital warts to develop. These strains of HPV are considered LOW RISK.

    A vaccination of males not cost effective? That is disappointing news. But I think that in time and under proper real-life circustances, The medical community and the power that be would understand that HPV is VERY common STD both in males and females. Vaccination, If it is available, safe and effective should be of TOP PRIORITY to all people. This seems like a political fallback and a cheap excuse of part of the drug companies, and the FDA.
  4. Visit  Baloney Amputation profile page
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    Quote from Teresag_CNS
    "Good coverage of females obviates the need to vaccinate boys."

    This assumes that "covering" young women will be universal and, as said above, that men do not have sex with men. This is sexist and ill-informed.

    A methodological note on this study: Their main outcome, QALYs, is weighted against deaths from cervical cancers caused by HPV strains covered by the vaccine. Because men don't die of genital warts from any strain, it appears better to vaccinate women.
    A thought occurred to me reading this post. My husband is thoroughly unable to get pregnant, yet he is the one, not me, who underwent definitive surgical sterilization due to safety and cost. He sucked it up and took one for the team. I'm thinking guys can suck it up with the Gardasil as well and roll up their sleeves and take one for the team (after considering risks like women should who choose to receive the vaccine), but that's just me on a tangent.
  5. Visit  bowser301 profile page
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    hmm can a 7 year old boy get this or is it for like sexually active males?
    i just wanna know thanks.
  6. Visit  azhiker96 profile page
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    Quote from applescruffette
    A thought occurred to me reading this post. My husband is thoroughly unable to get pregnant, yet he is the one, not me, who underwent definitive surgical sterilization due to safety and cost. He sucked it up and took one for the team. I'm thinking guys can suck it up with the Gardasil as well and roll up their sleeves and take one for the team (after considering risks like women should who choose to receive the vaccine), but that's just me on a tangent.
    That's actually a good thought and it would work for monogamous relationships.

    The study is talking about places where they don't have the resources to vaccinate everyone and they're trying to prevent cervical cancer. Suppose we have a country with a population of 2 million people roughly divided into equal numbers of males and females. However, since we're spending a lot of money to feed them, we can't afford to buy any vaccine. However, a rich country donates 250,000 doses of vaccine. We could either give them all to the young girls and protect 250,000 or give them to the boys and create a dating lottery of sorts. If a girl picked the right guy to date and marry she'd be fine. But if she picked one of the many wrong ones, oh well. Or we could give half to the girls and half to the boys. It seems to me that giving them to the girls prevents the most incidences of cervical cancer.

    This is not an issue in the US though. As noted in the OP, the FDA committee has recommended the vaccine for boys as well as girls. In a perfect world with unlimited funds I'm sure they'd vaccinate everybody who cared to be vaccinated no matter the gender.
  7. Visit  meluhn profile page
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    Quote from hiddencat
    2nd CEG. There's no way to test men (as far as I know) so immunizing them seems like an extra (needed) step to protecting women from cervical cancer. And with many people not interested in vaccinating for HPV in the first place, are we really in any danger of running out of supplies by "wasting" it on the guys?
    FYI--Actually I have heard that you can test men for warts that cant be seen with the naked eye by pouring vinegar on their penises and the warts will turn white--seriously, I really heard this--dont remember when or where.
  8. Visit  azhiker96 profile page
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    Quote from meluhn
    FYI--Actually I have heard that you can test men for warts that cant be seen with the naked eye by pouring vinegar on their penises and the warts will turn white--seriously, I really heard this--dont remember when or where.
    It's called the acetowhite test. It's good for finding hyperplastic warts but poor for other lesions. I've read that many have abandoned the test due to high false positive and false negative rates.
  9. Visit  DolceVita profile page
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    Quote from PeachPie
    Even with heterosexual sex, they still have the risk of oral cancer. And yes, I have a homosexual friend who got rectal cancer who totally endorses Gardasil for both males and females.

    I honestly call BS on the "not cost-effective" angle of this. If women were asymptomatic carriers of a disease that risked men's penises, they'd vaccinate us no matter what the cost.
    Yep...can't endanger the penis.
  10. Visit  anc33 profile page
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    This is disappointing news. HPV causes much more than just cervical cancer. The majority of anal cancers are HPV+ as are a large number of head and neck cancers. In addition we are now looking into the relationship between HPV and lung cancer. I hope studies like these don't dissuade researchers from doing more work on this topic. I imagine once they develop a more comprehensive vaccination (there are more high risk strains than just those covered by the vaccine) this cost/benefit ratio will be recalculated and vaccination recommended for both sexes.
  11. Visit  PeachPie profile page
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    Quote from bowser301
    hmm can a 7 year old boy get this or is it for like sexually active males?
    i just wanna know thanks.
    Sexual abuse. I have a female friend who had a partial hysterectomy at age 14 because her stepfather started molesting her at age 7, which turned into cervical cancer. I have a friend whose niece complained of pain down there, and the doctor discovered what he described as the worst case of genital warts he had ever seen. It happens to boys too. Nobody checks children for this kind of stuff because it's assumed they're not active.


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