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- Aug 3, '06 by cypress11Quote from subeeYou can email one of the defense attorneys at firstname.lastname@example.org i am told that some nurses are in the process of setting up a defense fund, and he will have the specifics when they are available.Does anyone know how we can contribute to help these nurses with their legal expenses?
We need to support them. Remember that your nurses' liability policy generally does not pay at all for defense costs in criminal matters. Imagine how much a murder defense is going to cost.
that is the problem I have with those who are happy to sit back and "let the justice system take its course." They will I think be found not guilty if tried, but bankrupt just the same.
- Aug 5, '06 by kokopelliIs it more humane to let someone suffer when there is no hope of being able to help them? I hope that the prosecutor is voted out of office. How can you sit back and judge healthcare workers who were the ones who stayed in the horrible conditions to try to provide care when the government did nothing? I think every nurse and doctor should come to the support of the nurses and doctor who are being prosecuted. Even if you don't agree with what they did at least they were there trying to comfort the sick and dying, as opposed to government officals who were more concerned with how they were going to look on television.
- Aug 5, '06 by caroladybelleGiven many of the blogs on this topic, most of the public are more supportive of the HCWs, and many do want sanctions against Tenet instead. Foti may have to worry about his job over this.
- Aug 5, '06 by CHATSDALEi bet that when foti strutted out on stage in front of a horde of jabbering media that he thought "boy this is my hour...the public is going to love me for this"
dumb dumb dumbLast edit by CHATSDALE on Aug 6, '06
- Aug 6, '06 by snowfreezeAs I was not there, I believe nothing.
- Aug 7, '06 by NRSKarenRNUpdate: No contact re email sent to lawyers. Will try and call in next few days re nurses defense fund.
- Aug 7, '06 by steelcityrnIm sure there will be a far different ending to this story than first reported.
- Aug 8, '06 by jtcceduI see nothing 'religious' in his comments. He is stating a symbolism of someone who assumes the power of life or death over others-and this is common language (remember Zeus, Apollo?).
My 2 cents: murder is murder. Individuals whose behavior started out as heroic, crossed the line. The emotional and psychological stress must have been tremendous but not enough to justify this type of behavior.
- Aug 9, '06 by cypress11Quote from nrskarenrnhere are additional details on the defense fund situation so far, from dr. poou's brother (the targeted doc in this travesty of justice):update: no contact re email sent to lawyers. will try and call in next few days re nurses defense fund.
the fund is set up and the account is open. we have started receiving some checks and are currently passing the word via email and telephone. the web site is being written and is still a work in progress. it may be a couple of weeks away and i'll try to keep everyone who is interested informed.
the defense fund is a trust called the dr. anna pou legal defense fund. the address is 201 st. charles ave., suite 114-363, new orleans, la 70170. the tax id # for the trust is 20-7033241 and names anna as the beneficiary. as defined in the trust, the contributions will go toward expenses associated with anna's defense. as stated in the trust the funds could also go toward the defense of the other nurses in the event that tenent does not fulfill its commitment to the nurses . it is very much our intent if we have the money to assist the nurses in any way possible. as of today it is my understanding that tenent is continuing to pay for their defense. the contributions are considered a gift and to my knowledge are not tax deductible. any funds remaining after the legal battle is over as stipulated in the trust will be donated to properly registered charities. i would think something appropriate in medicine such as cancer research.
- Aug 9, '06 by RRTsoontobeRNQuote from techienursewhat none of these discussions seem to take in to consideration is:ummm...the patients we are speaking of were on the 7th floor and in no danger of drowning.
thanks rnk for your thoughtful post. good points!
chatsdale, i hope you're not implying that those of us that think the indictments are appropriate are not smart
begalli...as i understand it, the definition of triage is "a process for sorting injured people into groups based on their need for or likely benefit from immediate medical treatment. triage is used in hospital emergency rooms, on battlefields, and at disaster sites when limited medical resources must be allocated." these hcws didn't limit or withold resources. therefore, i do not believe that arguement/defense is valid.
there was no power, the back up generators had failed, the batteries on the ventilators, monitor, iv pumps were exhausted.
there was no oxygen, the liquid oxygen system had been depleted and the back up tanks were near exhaustion - there was no way to get a delivery of medical gases to the hospitals.
there was no medications, the medication resources had been exhausted and after 4-days there appeared to be no chance of replenishment.
you have to think this all the way through and not over simplify what was going on in those days. everything from food, water and medication was being rationed. the helicopters flying overhead were not dropping supplies. there was nothing left to live on, much less support life!