Hospital now paying a price for understaffing?

  1. 15 I have discussed at length on this board in previous threads I have started about the plight of newly licensed registered nurses and new grads trying to gain employment. I have talked about how the patients will likely be neglected due to the systematic understaffing of hospitals and how the administrators who are “calling the shots” may very well be “shooting themselves in the foot” when it comes to what they may face later on due to the decisions they are making now.

    The following article highlights in part what I have been talking about. It discusses a hospital that I have repeatedly tried to get a job at for a solid year now. I personally know people that work there and have been begging for help for well over a year. This hospital along with just about every other hospital all over the country just simply isn’t hiring nurses, particularly new nurses. Hospitals were understaffed before they by and large stopped hiring new grads during the summer of 2008 and the situation is just getting worse. Nurses currently working in hospitals are increasingly being over worked, asked to stay late to pull over-time, asked to come in on their off days. Their getting worn down and they, along with their patients are bound to suffer. We are seeing lately more nurses in hospitals protesting about the unsafe conditions for the patients as a consequence of the understaffing. Meanwhile you’ve got new RNs suppliant for jobs all over the country for well over a year now to no avail. Let’s not forget all those “recession-proof” nursing job articles (Forbes.com) that the media has been pumping out over the last year. I know all you unemployed new RNs out there just love those shoved in your face by misled people who think you are doing something wrong because you can’t get a job.

    Back to the article at hand. Be sure to watch the news cast of the story as it appeared when originally aired by clicking on the video link provided within the article. I will provide a link to the article itself below. There is also a comments section below the article.

    This could be you or a member of your family literally dying from bedsores.
    Do you think the hospital might try to recoup some of its legal fees by going after the nurses involved?

    How many of you med/surg nurses out there can honestly say that you consistently provide care to your patients the way that it should be?
    How many of you have skipped lunch while on shift because you believed you just couldn’t leave your patient load long enough to grab a bite, and later received a tongue lashing for not taking that lunch break?
    How has your work load been lately?

    I could go on and on. My point is, the unemployment problems being faced by new RNs today can very well create problems for nurses currently working in hospitals. And there are a lot of unemployed experienced nurses out there as well. Just a little something for all you hard “working” nurses out there to think about.

    Here’s the link to the article:
    http://www.news4jax.com/news/22647694/detail.html
    Last edit by Joe V on Mar 3, '10
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  3. Visit  Sehille4774 profile page
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    Well and here is the other thing...If the hospitals continue to pass on hiring new grads...where are they going to go to find "hospital ready" nurses fill hospital spots? We are sitting at home looking at the want-ads and meanwhile, every day our skills and knowledge base dwindles. I mean what do they think they are preparing us to do during school? Hospital Work. I am sorry, but after 5 years of college (yes I have a BSN), passing the nclex with flying colors, a hospital externship and 5 years working as a CNA, i am more then qualified to fill an entry level med-surg spot. I mean what more does it take to get a job in this country anymore?? Do they really think that if I go off to do some home care job or nursing home postion for the coveted '1 year of experience" that I will be sharper on all my med-surg knowledge and hospital skills? The answer, I believe is no.

    God bless the origional poster and all the others trying to raise awareness about this issue. This is my dream. Be encouraged tho. There are more and more positions opening up every day, way more then 6 months ago. Their are jobs out there. I got a call friday to interview at a local hospital on an ONC floor and only 5 applicants!! Pray for me please!
    Zombi RN, tewdles, brandimpRN, and 16 others like this.
  4. Visit  elprup profile page
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    Thank you.
  5. Visit  Blove86 profile page
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    Wow that is so sad, and drives home the point of what happens when money is the main concern with hospital administration..
    cjmjmom, Jessy_RN, Moogie, and 2 others like this.
  6. Visit  KAUAIRNEMT profile page
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    I feel the pain and that my profession betrayed me. I already applied for other jobs and most of them told/feel that I am OVER QUALIFIED and that I will leave the job if I get a nursing job. On the other hand, I cannot get a nursing job because I DON'T have experience. I am not gonna wait until my family starved. I can believe I spent years in schools just to be unemployed. Thanks for the posting the thread.
    shortie.ja, Jessy_RN, freeflowchi, and 3 others like this.
  7. Visit  neurorn6 profile page
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    Welcome to nursing. All of the hype that has been out there regarding the storage is just that. Are their nursing jobs, sure, but are they where you want to work? Unfortunately, the media and our own organizations have fed the hype about the shortage. Also, nursing homes don't always hire RN's, there are nursing homes that only have 1 RN on site while the remaining staff are LPN's and CNA's. I know this because I have worked under these condidtions.

    It's not easy being a nurse, and I for one feel that if the Health Care Reform comes to pass that we will see more and worse problems. I have been doing this for a long time and all over the country. So, here is my thoughts, if you can't get a fulltime/parttime position, check out PRN pools, be willing to start in the worse units and be flexible in your hours and or shift. DON"T GIVE UP!
    LockportRN, Jessy_RN, JeanettePNP, and 2 others like this.
  8. Visit  PostOpPrincess profile page
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    I think this is also a backlash when there was such a nursing shortage in early 2000 and new nurses "called the shots." Many had boldly told their employers they were "lucky" to get them as "new nurses." and they were going to do what they want.

    For a while, there was a stranglehold and the new nurses overwhelmed the system with certain entitlement issues and it is my belief that the newer crops are paying for this.

    I am sorry that it is happening because instead of being proactive, most administrations/especially for-profit hospitals knee-jerk at everything.

    IMHO, it never pays to be in management because of the pendulum that inevitably will swing the other way and we--the general us, we--will be in the same spot as before.

    *sigh*
    Jessy_RN and Moogie like this.
  9. Visit  purvislets profile page
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    As a pre-nursing student in the Jacksonville area (where the article was written) it makes me really nervous about my choice to become a nurse. I'm not planning on applying until Fall 2011 at the earliest, but after talking with some Jax area nurses they make it seem like it's downright impossible to get a job as a new grad.
    That being said, I'm not giving up. I'm hoping that by the time I graduate from nursing school that the area hospitals will have wised up and realized what a waste it is not hiring new grads who have been trained in hospital situations.
  10. Visit  Blue Crab Lover profile page
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    Quote from purvislets
    As a pre-nursing student in the Jacksonville area (where the article was written) it makes me really nervous about my choice to become a nurse. I'm not planning on applying until Fall 2011 at the earliest, but after talking with some Jax area nurses they make it seem like it's downright impossible to get a job as a new grad.
    That being said, I'm not giving up. I'm hoping that by the time I graduate from nursing school that the area hospitals will have wised up and realized what a waste it is not hiring new grads who have been trained in hospital situations.
    I am not trying to discourage you. However, I wish I was told the truth in nursing school. I would be doing something else right now if I had known. Listen to your inner voice.
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  11. Visit  misplaced1 profile page
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    Pur..
    Be assured that a business, which in this country a hosptial IS, only the bottom line matters. There are no limits on how many a people a nurse can care for. RNs and docs are the responsible parties. AND if a situation becomes bad you can't just leave, that is called abandonment. Taking this path is one thing, not understanding what the path is another. Thinking that a hospital will ever "care" about its employess is merely a pipedream. The only way conditions will improve is if legally they have to or if hospitals and insurance companies have to take more responsiblity and less is taken off the nurses and docs backs- not gonna happen.

    There will eventually be more and more importation of foreign nurses. This will happen also because nurses for the most part lay dowsn and take whatever is dished out and I have determined that is something that cfan't be changed. People attracted to this profession are mostly codependent, including myself when I got interested in it. WE put everyone else first and that is how nursing is set up, everyone else is first , you are of little value or importance. This is the attitude that is very prevalent in nursing. Now that I have recovered from codependency I feel I do not fit very weel although I am still trying to figure out how to use my education.

    Be well
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  12. Visit  Putter profile page
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    Quote from Blue Crab Lover
    I am not trying to discourage you. However, I wish I was told the truth in nursing school. I would be doing something else right now if I had known. Listen to your inner voice.
    This is a terrible thing that has happened to people but stuff like this happens far more that what you hear. Usually covered up by a paper trail or the family's don't know how many patients the nurse has and they trust health care providers. I am going through an unsafe event at work right now. You can read my thread What would you do? I often to think about getting out of the medical field. Hospitals say budgets are cut due to bad economy but yet the CEO make 1-5 million dollars per year. I have been on a pay freeze for three years now and yet they built a new facility, March of 2009 and now it is being remodeled. I work nights which is not as crazy during the day but the day nurses at out facility are caring 1 nurse per 12 patients. Now tell me where is the quality care, there is none. Staff is not being properly trained and expected to do stuff with out orders, supplies, or policy and procedures. So I like you have thought about trading in my profession for another. Because yes it will fall back onto the nurses license and they will eat up a chunk of the lawsuit, and may lose there license they work so hard to have.
    LockportRN and Blue Crab Lover like this.
  13. Visit  helikias profile page
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    Quote from Sehille4774
    Well and here is the other thing...If the hospitals continue to pass on hiring new grads...where are they going to go to find "hospital ready" nurses fill hospital spots? We are sitting at home looking at the want-ads and meanwhile, every day our skills and knowledge base dwindles. I mean what do they think they are preparing us to do during school? Hospital Work. I am sorry, but after 5 years of college (yes I have a BSN), passing the nclex with flying colors, a hospital externship and 5 years working as a CNA, i am more then qualified to fill an entry level med-surg spot. I mean what more does it take to get a job in this country anymore?? Do they really think that if I go off to do some home care job or nursing home postion for the coveted '1 year of experience" that I will be sharper on all my med-surg knowledge and hospital skills? The answer, I believe is no.

    God bless the origional poster and all the others trying to raise awareness about this issue. This is my dream. Be encouraged tho. There are more and more positions opening up every day, way more then 6 months ago. Their are jobs out there. I got a call friday to interview at a local hospital on an ONC floor and only 5 applicants!! Pray for me please!
    I will pray for you. You have so many excellent qualifications, and it's insane and unfair that someone as well educated and prepared as you is having a hard time finding a job! Good luck!
  14. Visit  Evalynn profile page
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    Scary!

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