Hospital Bans Black Nurses From Caring for White Baby at Father's Request - page 9

Customer service run amok. I'm a Black nurse in a very white state. During my tour of Nursing Home Hell, one resident added a note to his chart saying "Caucasian caregivers only." Oddly... Read More

  1. Visit  SummitRN profile page
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    I think what the hospital did is pretty outrageous. I also think it is pretty outrageous to forbid male nurses/doctors from interacting with or caring for females of certain religions, or female providers from caring for male patients. I honestly don't believe there is much difference between racism and sexism under the guise of religion.
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  2. Visit  LadyFree28 profile page
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    Quote from klone
    I can't get over the fact that people are losing sight of the fact that the hospital is BREAKING THE LAW. Why do you think the attorneys had such a fit about the note in the chart??

    It seems to me that MORE people need to challenge people's idiotic belief systems. If regular people didn't insist on challenging people's belief systems, we'd still have minorities sitting in the back of the bus.
    ^Thank YOU klone!!! :applause:

    THEY WERE BREAKING THE LAW.

    LAWS are in place to adhere to STANDARDS.

    IF YOU BREAK A LAW, there are CONSEQUENCES IN BREAKING THE LAW, be it MONETARY, LOSS OF PRIVILEGES OR FREEDOM.

    It really is that simple folks...IT IS THE FACTS.

    LESSON: DON'T BREAK THE LAW, ANY LAWS...THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES

    Ok??? Ok.
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  3. Visit  anotherone profile page
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    no. some request females only based on ignorance ( i include the so called acceptable beliefs in this category). male or female only what ever makes you more comfortable .... what if you have ptsd due to some circumstance involving a person of another race....any ruling will and should legally set a precedent then on discrimination against gender. same laws that protect against racial discrimination protect against gender discrimination. why shouldnt a hospital also be sued for allowing female caregiver only signs. is it not acceptable only if it said ,"asian female caregiver only" ???? i say this as someone who has sought out female doctors before ... . i feel like if said, " hey, i prefer a female nurse (or myself , if i can!) put in my foley "and there are many available , am i not living in a glass house also???
  4. Visit  anotherone profile page
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    Quote from psu_213
    Well, I certainly don't want to be the charge nurse who didn't reassign her only to find her harmed after the shift. I have a hard time believing that my finances are going to be protected by federal law when I am sued for not protecting a staff member who was threatened by a family member.
    that is my exact concern as someone often in charge.
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  5. Visit  anotherone profile page
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    Quote from klone
    I can't get over the fact that people are losing sight of the fact that the hospital is BREAKING THE LAW. Why do you think the attorneys had such a fit about the note in the chart??It seems to me that MORE people need to challenge people's idiotic belief systems. If regular people didn't insist on challenging people's belief systems, we'd still have minorities sitting in the back of the bus.
    you are right. male or female only signs violate the same laws
  6. Visit  klone profile page
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    Quote from anotherone
    you are right. male or female only signs violate the same laws
    I imagine you're right, and this thread has definitely made me rethink that issue, from a risk-management perspective.
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  7. Visit  anotherone profile page
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    Has anyone here refused to care for such pts ? as a student i saw many such " hispanic nurses only " "black nurses only" etc . accommodated. the demographics allowed for it . i would not want to take care of someone who specifically requested not to have me. actually if I sence any tension i will ask for a different assignment. actually a catch 22 you violate the law by reassigning but if you dont you will also possibly face civil legal action for " emotional distress" or some other such thing.
    Last edit by anotherone on Feb 17, '13
  8. Visit  SummitRN profile page
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    Quote from anotherone
    no. some request females only based on ignorance ( i include the so called acceptable beliefs in this category). male or female only what ever makes you more comfortable .... what if you have ptsd due to some circumstance involving a person of another race....any ruling will and should legally set a precedent then on discrimination against gender. same laws that protect against racial discrimination protect against gender discrimination. why shouldnt a hospital also be sued for allowing female caregiver only signs. is it not acceptable only if it said ,"asian female caregiver only" ???? i say this as someone who has sought out female doctors before ... . i feel like if said, " hey, i prefer a female nurse (or myself , if i can!) put in my foley "and there are many available , am i not living in a glass house also???
    I'm sure that the racist nazi bigot in question here thought his belief was an "acceptable belief" and that his disgusting requests for no blacks made him "more comfortable."

    We try to accommodation patients, but all patients should be equal. Either we are all equal, or some are more equal than others. Preference is different than requirement. Remember that male nurse who was fired for caring for a female Muslim patient against hospital policy? That was wrong too.
  9. Visit  psu_213 profile page
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    I understand what the law says. This was a horrible situation, but the charge nurse was put in a terrible situation (from the acutal lawsuit it appears that the NM of the unit was the person named, but because, for the time being, I would be the charge nurse, not the NM). So a father comes up to me, says he refuses to have his baby cared for by the African American nurse that was assigned. He also shows me his tattoo. So here are my options:

    1. I say the law is the law. There are no exceptions, it must be followed...never questioned. Therefore, I do not reassign this nurse. If something happens to the child, the nurse could be harmed, I could be harmed. At the end of the day, it is a federal law, so it must be right, and I have to follow it no matter what.

    2. I reassign the nurse. Not for the baby's protection. Not simply to comply with the father's racist directive. I do so for the physical protection of both the nurse and myself. Yes, it's a hypothetical that some harm could come to us, but given the tattoo and the fanatical beliefs associated with it, it seems like there is a potential for bodily harm. However, I have now broken the law, and have opened myself, my manager, and the hospital to law suits.

    You can decide for yourself which choice is more appealing. As for me, well, all I can say is I'm glad I was not actually the charge nurse on that unit that day.
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  10. Visit  klone profile page
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    How about your reassign the nurse for THAT SHIFT, then immediately after, in counsel with the hospital attorneys, you request a meeting with the family wherein you explain your position, explain the law, explain why you cannot comply with his request. You don't continue to honor his illegal and racist request for an entire month.
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    Quote from klone
    How about your reassign the nurse for THAT SHIFT, then immediately after, in counsel with the hospital attorneys, you request a meeting with the family wherein you explain your position, explain the law, explain why you cannot comply with his request. You don't continue to honor his illegal and racist request for an entire month.
    doung something illegal for a day is also violating a law.
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  12. Visit  Kandake profile page
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    I find it sad that some of the so called nurses here are ignorant of discrimination laws.
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  13. Visit  klone profile page
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    Quote from anotherone
    doung something illegal for a day is also violating a law.
    Yes, but I'm guessing that the nurse would not be suing them if they did it for one partial shift, while they figure out how to best handle the situation. I'm guessing that they did this for an entire month and handled the situation so poorly is the reason why she's suing.
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