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- Quote from KatieP86So picking a nurse based on your personal preference is ok as long as its by gender? What about sexuality? Or religion?Gynecology issues? Give me a female nurse! I think it depends on the care being given.
There is no modesty, religious or psychological reasons why someone is a racist and no reason AT ALL to refuse a nurse or caregiver or a particular race except ignorance.
Playing devil's advocate for a moment:
Maybe this neonazi was raped by an AA male as a kid and that's the root of his hate? His nazi-beliefs aren't a religion pre-se but that are a belief system, so it could also be argued that he has religious reasons.
- Feb 17 by 07302003When patients and their families expose themselves as racists... I haven't seen caregivers of any color banned where I work... but if you and your people are dissing the EXCELLENT nurses and CNA's of color I work with, many of whom are more experienced and better nurses than me, then yeah, you are not getting the best nursing care from my white self. Because you're offensive, and hateful, and to be anything but businesslike and professional with you is admitting that I am OK with your hateful beliefs regarding my work family.
- Feb 17 by sixela21I like your comment, but cannot "like" it for this reason: This is a repeated theme that I am seeing--gender and race being compared. A pregnant woman in labor who would be more comfortable with a woman poking around between her legs as opposed to a male should not be compared with a racist. I would consider myself an educated and tolerant person and would never discriminate based on race or gender, but if I had the option (IF I had the option--in a perfect world) I would chose the female based on religious/personal preferences, being a female myself. However, I would by no means ever "send" a nurse or doctor away and request a female, simply to be difficult. But in a perfect world where (and this question has been asked to me before, I wear a headscarf normally, religious reasons) the question is presented to me and I am given the option, I would chose the female caregiver--men and women are different anatomically speaking and other slight differences.
So a man being more comfortable with a male doctor when he's seeking a diagnosis for Erectile dysfunction or getting a physical, is more acceptable and understandable than a neo-nazi refusing care based on bigotry and pure hatred of another race. Am I saying no one can ever discriminate based on gender? No. I am stating that generally when caretakers of another gender are requested, it is usually in a situation like the one you detailed above, and that cannot be compared to the man being discussed here. There is a clear difference.
- Feb 17 by sixela21Then he needs to receive psychological care or counseling rather than impose his beliefs on the rest of society. This situation is completely different, and it is disheartening to see that people are making excuses for this behavior. I am Muslim, my race, however, is a little more ambiguous to people and they usually have a hard time "guessing" where I am from.
I am tan and wear a scarf, so I have been discriminated against quite a bit in my short lifetime. Is it fair for someone to request a nurse other than me because, "terrorists blew up the world-trade center, therefore, she is an evil terrorist, and I want another nurse based on this ignorant assumption/prejudice?" You'd be surprised how often I have experienced that. Please don't make excuses for this behavior. It is hurtful and ignorant.
- Quote from sixela21I fundamentally disagree with your argument. He is not imposing his beliefs on us, rather, by forcing him to have a nurse he is uncomfortable with (for any reason), or referring him to psych, is us imposing our beliefs on him.Then he needs to receive psychological care or counseling rather than impose his beliefs on the rest of society. This situation is completely different, and it is disheartening to see that people are making excuses for this behavior.
Please don't make excuses for this behavior. It is hurtful and ignorant.
- Feb 17 by KatieP86The point I was trying to make (I had just woken up when I wrote my first post!) was that it all depends on the reasoning behind the request. Requesting a same-gender nurse because the patient is modest or religious is different than requesting a nurse of a specific race. No religion I know of instructs followers to avoid being alone with people not of your race or to veil your face in front of them.
On a case by case basis, there is usually a solid reason behind requesting a same-gender nurse. In my mind there can NEVER be a good reason to request a same-ethnicity nurse.
That said, requesting a nurse of a different gender because you believe ALL male/female nurses are incompetent is also being ignorant, so I do see your point too. Like I said, I suppose it depends on WHY you made the request.
- Feb 17 by kloneQuote from sixela21Yes. Motivations DO matter. It's not the same thing. The bigoted ******* has a right to be a bigoted *******, but his rights ends where a nurse's rights to be protected against illegal racism begins. The hospital was WRONG WRONG WRONG (and their attorneys knew that, which is why they made them change things as soon as they got a whiff of what was going on) and I hope that nurse wins her lawsuit.Am I saying no one can ever discriminate based on gender? No. I am stating that generally when caretakers of another gender are requested, it is usually in a situation like the one you detailed above, and that cannot be compared to the man being discussed here. There is a clear difference.
Bigoted *******s need to be sent a message that people are not going to just cowtow to their racism.
- Feb 17 by kloneQuote from BostonFNPYou think when he showed the NM his swastika tattoo, that it really was just a matter of "personal preference"?I understand what you are trying to say but in the end can you really say either is not just personal preference?