Hospital Bans Black Nurses From Caring for White Baby at Father's Request - page 5
Customer service run amok. I'm a Black nurse in a very white state. During my tour of Nursing Home Hell, one resident added a note to his chart saying "Caucasian caregivers only." Oddly... Read More
7Feb 17, '13 by MedChica, CNA, LPNI don't agree that the woman is looking for a payday. She's just driven by emotion, in my opinion. Generally speaking, black folks tend to hypersensitive about such matters...obviously, because of our history in this country. Sometimes, it's warranted. Sometimes, an individual will see boogeymen where none exist. I believe that some, in their rush to be 'colorblind' (like we're all just chocolate/red/brown/yellow-covered white people), forget that there is such a thing as cultural relativity.
We all live a different reality and some groups will experience a strong
knee-jerk where race-related issues are concerned.
She's just 'deeply offended' at the moment.
I understand. She's pointing aim at the wrong entity, i.e., the hospital, though. I 'get' their position. For one, the patient's got a right to be comfortable. Also, I'd say that the hospital's protecting it's nurses. There's a potential for liability. That guy could accuse the nurse of anything and find a way to sue the hospital on top of it. Who'd back her up then?
I'm black. I've never been refused because of it. However, when people are angry...it's usually the first insult thrown (other than the 'b' word). It's the most identifiable characteristic. Doesn't bother me, though. I'm proud to say that my 'baby' nurse-skin is like that of teflon! LOL
So, if I came to see a 'White Nurse's Only' note in a pt's chart...or the dept decreed that no 'nurses of color' tend to this or that resident?
Sure, I'll take offense...if someone can explain how 'less work' = problem for me?
Guess who's 'Favorite Nazi Patient' is getting an Edibles fruit basket? LOL
Hell - decrease my pt load. I dare you to make my work day more pleasant, patient!
If only every nut and a-hole would 'self-identify'.
0Feb 17, '13 by mariebailey, MSN, RNQuote from MedChicaGood points. Thanks for a different perspective.I 'get' their position. For one, the patient's got a right to be comfortable. Also, I'd say that the hospital's protecting it's nurses. There's a potential for liability. That guy could accuse the nurse of anything and find a way to sue the hospital on top of it. Who'd back her up then?
2Feb 17, '13 by JDZ344Quote from cueballRNI think the two situations are different. I can understand several instances where a female might not want a male nurse and vice versa, for example history of sexual abuse needing help with personal care. Gynecology issues? Give me a female nurse! I think it depends on the care being given.For people who say they are outraged, as a male nurse there have been several occasions where the patient wanted a female nurse and did not want to have me. Was I outraged? Did I sue my hospital? No. For those outraged, is gender discrimination not as bad as racial? Or is my situation ok just because I'm a man, and its not a female being discriminated against?
This woman sounds like somebody just fishing for a nice payout from their employer before retiring.
There is no modesty, religious or psychological reasons why someone is a racist and no reason AT ALL to refuse a nurse or caregiver or a particular race except ignorance.Last edit by JDZ344 on May 14, '14
0Feb 17, '13 by JDZ344Quote from VivaLasViejas"Window licker?" That term is SO offensive here where I live. I really hope it means something different in the USA than it does in the UK!Holy mackerel........I can't believe that all this should even be an issue in 2013. Whatever is the matter with people? How absolutely ridiculous that anyone still thinks like the window-licker in the article mentioned in the OP.Last edit by JDZ344 on Feb 17, '13 : Reason: spelling.
3Feb 17, '13 by jadelpn, LPN, EMT-B GuideWow. Perhaps the father of this child should hire his own private nurse to his liking, and take the baby home to be cared for. Or move the child to some sort of private facility, where he can make the rules. Betcha any amount of money that the family is perhaps on state insurance????? <----which I am sure he would find offensive--Just as offensive as dictating the race of a nurse who cares for his critically ill child.
2Feb 17, '13 by klone, MSN, RNQuote from KatieP86Nope, means the same thing. I, too, cringed when I read it. Although I agree with everything else she wrote.
"Window licker?" That term is SO offensive here where I live. I really hope it means something different in the USA than it does in the UK!
1Many times in the course of my career I had patients request a female nurse/provider instead of me; if it were at all possible, I respected their wishes. Is this that much different? I never took it personally and I never wanted to sue for it.
Let me be clear, I don't think there should be any discrimination based on race, gender, religion, or sexuality. But when you are caring for someone at their most vulnerable times, I also believe in trying to make them as comfortable as possible, and this includes respecting their (in my opinion) ridiculous wishes.
2Quote from KatieP86So picking a nurse based on your personal preference is ok as long as its by gender? What about sexuality? Or religion?Gynecology issues? Give me a female nurse! I think it depends on the care being given.
There is no modesty, religious or psychological reasons why someone is a racist and no reason AT ALL to refuse a nurse or caregiver or a particular race except ignorance.
Playing devil's advocate for a moment:
Maybe this neonazi was raped by an AA male as a kid and that's the root of his hate? His nazi-beliefs aren't a religion pre-se but that are a belief system, so it could also be argued that he has religious reasons.
0Feb 17, '13 by 07302003When patients and their families expose themselves as racists... I haven't seen caregivers of any color banned where I work... but if you and your people are dissing the EXCELLENT nurses and CNA's of color I work with, many of whom are more experienced and better nurses than me, then yeah, you are not getting the best nursing care from my white self. Because you're offensive, and hateful, and to be anything but businesslike and professional with you is admitting that I am OK with your hateful beliefs regarding my work family.
3Feb 17, '13 by sixela21I like your comment, but cannot "like" it for this reason: This is a repeated theme that I am seeing--gender and race being compared. A pregnant woman in labor who would be more comfortable with a woman poking around between her legs as opposed to a male should not be compared with a racist. I would consider myself an educated and tolerant person and would never discriminate based on race or gender, but if I had the option (IF I had the option--in a perfect world) I would chose the female based on religious/personal preferences, being a female myself. However, I would by no means ever "send" a nurse or doctor away and request a female, simply to be difficult. But in a perfect world where (and this question has been asked to me before, I wear a headscarf normally, religious reasons) the question is presented to me and I am given the option, I would chose the female caregiver--men and women are different anatomically speaking and other slight differences.
So a man being more comfortable with a male doctor when he's seeking a diagnosis for Erectile dysfunction or getting a physical, is more acceptable and understandable than a neo-nazi refusing care based on bigotry and pure hatred of another race. Am I saying no one can ever discriminate based on gender? No. I am stating that generally when caretakers of another gender are requested, it is usually in a situation like the one you detailed above, and that cannot be compared to the man being discussed here. There is a clear difference.
3Feb 17, '13 by sixela21Then he needs to receive psychological care or counseling rather than impose his beliefs on the rest of society. This situation is completely different, and it is disheartening to see that people are making excuses for this behavior. I am Muslim, my race, however, is a little more ambiguous to people and they usually have a hard time "guessing" where I am from.
I am tan and wear a scarf, so I have been discriminated against quite a bit in my short lifetime. Is it fair for someone to request a nurse other than me because, "terrorists blew up the world-trade center, therefore, she is an evil terrorist, and I want another nurse based on this ignorant assumption/prejudice?" You'd be surprised how often I have experienced that. Please don't make excuses for this behavior. It is hurtful and ignorant.
1I understand what you are trying to say but in the end can you really say either is not just personal preference?