Hospital Bans Black Nurses From Caring for White Baby at Father's Request - page 14
Customer service run amok. I'm a Black nurse in a very white state. During my tour of Nursing Home Hell, one resident added a note to his chart saying "Caucasian caregivers only." Oddly... Read More
Feb 18, '13i have seen a few pts want only female nurses but prefer male drs as they are "smarter". it is astonishingly that our society has come so far despite so many backwards people. progress in other areas is hindered by these beliefs and preferences
Feb 18, '13Quote from barbyannBarbyann, I realize that the situations you described were serious and stressful, but I must thank you for the laughs!!!!!!This is about so much more...I have found myself in the charge role many times.... I now work day shift and it is so nice to know that I can call Risk Managment for advice.
How to respond? I can think of a number of ways to diffuse the tension-- none of which I learned in nursing school. I taught for many years, lived in many different areas growing up (predominantly white, and predominantly black schools, upper middle class and very poor schools.) I've owned businesses in which I provided services to the public, yet had to deal with their "issues" while keeping myself out if legal trouble and making them happy enough to keep paying me.
My background, as described above, is what I would draw on.
But like Klone and Ladyfree keep saying-- the law is the law regarding discrimination against a protected class. You just can't do it.
Feb 18, '13Quote from KatieP86Ok, I'm confused. I've never heard the term before, in any context. What does it mean in the UK that makes it so offensive?"Window licker?" That term is SO offensive here where I live. I really hope it means something different in the USA than it does in the UK!
Ok, should have read ahead, I now know what it means.Last edit by monkeybug on Feb 18, '13
Feb 18, '13I'm glad the nurse is making a stand. If I was the CEO I would tell the man "race makes no difference in the care of your baby, once your baby is stable you can go to another hospital but in the mean time I cannot honor tie requests."
Feb 19, '13This was an awful situation created by an awful man. If I was the nurse manager working that unit, I would feel angry, confused and conflicted. I would have have wanted to protect my nurse from a racist. I would be concerned for her well being while working with this family.
First, I would have pulled the nurse aside. I would have explained to her what the father said and what his arm looked like. If she felt safe and comfortable with the situation, then she should continue to care for the baby. If not, then I would have switched the assignments. I would support the nurses decision either way and it would have been her's to make.
Secondly, depending on the outcome of my conversation. I would go with the nurse and have a talk with the father. It would not be to confront him but to make him aware of the law and the nurses decision. Doing this, with the nurse, shows that his nonsense isn't supported. If the father didn't like it he could leave. Security could help him find the door, if needed.
I would have called my supervisor and made them aware of what happened in a detailed report.
Feb 19, '13AND that was wrong!! If you have RN behind your name that is all that matters!! the hospital should have stood behind that NURSE!! for all that is holy!! she has worked for that broke down hospital for 25 years so some RESPECT!!! tell that dad to go elsewhere!! Drive to the other childrens hospitals in that area!! haha what a surprize he would get!! no one wants his business stay home and take care of your own kid then!
Feb 19, '13UMMM then you call security or the police and have the parent removed from the grounds!Quote from psu_213I don't think anyone is questioning this nurse's rights...I know I am certainly not. I'm just saying that this situation is not as simple as "this is the law, follow it." I have a right not to be assaulted and I have a right to life, but I might lose those rights if I was the charge who ignored this neo-Nazi's request.
Feb 19, '13Quote from anotheroneBut I would reassign the nurse out of respect and care for her...that one shift, one time.doung something illegal for a day is also violating a law.
Then I would be getting in trouble with my administration when I told the man that his racism would not be promoted in the hospital...in so many words.
Feb 19, '13I have seen this request from patients and their families numerous times, and have seen hospitals comply with the request on several occasions.
Hospitals are now more geared towards customer service vs patient care, so why does this even come as a surprise many of you?
Also, would it be considered discrimination against the nurse, or just accomadating a family's request? Hospitals accomadate and cater to everything else families request, so why should this be any different?
I'm not saying what the hospital did was correct, as I am half African American myself; however, this happens more than what people think. Some people will flat out tell you they don't want black nurses or will complain about every little thing the black nurses do so that they will only have white nurses.Last edit by BluntForceTrauma on Feb 19, '13
Feb 19, '13I would have to agree. I also would like to hear 'the rest of the story' as Paul Harvey would say. What else has happened in the last 25 years of her employment at that hospital? Another option and a better one I think, would have been for the hospital to offer to transfer the patient AND the father to another facility.
*If something adverse had happened, it would be far better that she was not involved. YUP!
As long as the charge nurse or upper management documented in the patient's chart why that nurse was removed from working on that patient [so that IF there had been an emergency situation come up and that nurse "failed to act' she would be covered] I would not have had much of an issue over it. BUT you can NOT have it both ways.
In the long run was it in that nurse's best interest to NOT care for THAT baby?-- I think so.
Why would she want to work on THAT baby? Given the reported situation, I would not have wanted to.
Feb 19, '13Quote from ThePrincessBrideYes, there IS a big difference! BUT reporters go with the more 'charged' way of saying things to catch the eye.... it does not matter to them how wrong it sounds. The more outragious it sounds, the better to them. Just like in advertising they teach to use words to grab your attention and if you can include topics related to SEX [acts not just gender], race or religion - it sells 'better'Also, I have a problem with the title of thread. The hospital didn't ban black nurses from caring for the white baby, the baby's father did. Big difference.
Feb 19, '13Quote from PRICHARILLAisMISSEDA hospital CAN transfer a patient to a 'better' facility for care if they want to. depends on what you call better. It appears to me [on the little that is reported] that the father did not want the best care for his kid, just a none black one. If it were me and my family I would just insist on the best person they had, I don't care about what color they happen to be. --- Black, white or purple -male or female, IF they can do a good job on me or a loved one, then I will take them. IF they are not good at their jobs, then they got to go. Based on the story -I hope that she wins.Normally, I hate lawsuits. But in this case, maybe it be for the better. I'm against racism (or any "ism") in all forms, and if it takes a lawsuit to combat it in hospitals then so be it. I wonder though, does the hospital actually have the legal grounds to tell a "customer" that they "have to take their business elsewhere?" If they do, then I hope this nurse takes them for millions! If they don't have the right to do so, then it is not the hospitals fault-it is the Governments fault. If that is the case then I'm not sure how soaking money out of the hospital will help-they will be required to do the same thing in the future by law, anyway.