Hospital Bans Black Nurses From Caring for White Baby at Father's Request - page 13

by Not_A_Hat_Person

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Customer service run amok. I'm a Black nurse in a very white state. During my tour of Nursing Home Hell, one resident added a note to his chart saying "Caucasian caregivers only." Oddly enough, he didn't mind when he... Read More


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    Quote from psu_213
    I find it sad that some people want to say "this is the law, therefore it must be right, so there can be no more discussion" without recognizing that there are extenuating circumstances.
    Kind of hard to argue that when you're ignorant of the law in the first place.

    Oh, and I didn't realize there had to be open discussion about people's rights.
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    Quote from Kandake
    Kind of hard to argue that when you're ignorant of the law in the first place.

    Oh, and I didn't realize there had to be open discussion about people's rights.
    I don't think anyone is questioning this nurse's rights...I know I am certainly not. I'm just saying that this situation is not as simple as "this is the law, follow it." I have a right not to be assaulted and I have a right to life, but I might lose those rights if I was the charge who ignored this neo-Nazi's request.
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    Quote from psu_213
    I don't think anyone is questioning this nurse's rights...I know I am certainly not. I'm just saying that this situation is not as simple as "this is the law, follow it." I have a right not to be assaulted and I have a right to life, but I might lose those rights if I was the charge who ignored this neo-Nazi's request.
    Are you saying he might have hurt the staff if he didn't get his way? Do most hospitals manage that way? By buckling down when physically intimidated by patient's family members?

    I am just curious.
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    Quote from Kandake
    Are you saying he might have hurt the staff if he didn't get his way? Do most hospitals manage that way? By buckling down when physically intimidated by patient's family members?

    I am just curious.
    The fact that people are arguing this is mind-boggling to me.
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    requests will NOT be another by age, gender, race or veteran status due to beliefs, preferences , past psych history etc......if you don't like it sign out ama.
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    Quote from Kandake
    Are you saying he might have hurt the staff if he didn't get his way? Do most hospitals manage that way? By buckling down when physically intimidated by patient's family members?I am just curious.
    sometimes!!!!
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    Quote from HeartsOpenWide
    I think it's a sick situation, but the hospital has to honor the patients request; he does have a right to refuse treatment even if its a sick and wrong reason. I suppose the hospital could tell him that there are no other nurses available to care for the child, but e might not believe it if he saw non black nurses working...but why would this nurse want to care for the child with a racist father? I imagine it would be very unpleasant. We have labor patients that refuse male nurses but the nurse never sues the hospital for sexual discrimination...
    Why does the hospital have to honor an illegitimate request? Is there any legal reason for the hospital simply telling the bigot that he does not get to chose staff based on race?
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    This is about so much more than black/white, male/female. I have found myself in the charge role many times and been uncertain about so many things but race and gender requests have never been a grey area for me. Let me offer some examples that I made-up and in no way are they true or ever happened

    1. Gang member's family requesting no one from the "Eastside" take care of their loved one. I would prefer not to have a gang fight on the floor. I called security for support and oddly the patient and the two security officers were all "buddies". They were able to convince the family that no rival gang members were working on our floor.

    2. A pt who attempted to refuse care from a "little person" nurse because she was "scared of midgets". She hyperventilated after being told the assignment stands. By the end of the shift she liked her nurse.

    3. Pre-op transexual M>F with bipolar disorder, breasts and frilly nightgowns/boas, sparkly slippers, high pitch voice in for pancreatitis who was placed in a room with a large black truck-driving male pt. Pt #1 was being abusive to his Phillipino RN, screaming "get someone in here who can speak english and has a real American education". Pt #2 spoke through the curtain for him to calm down and be nice. Pt #1 goes on long tirade about being gang raped by 3 black men as a teen and starts screaming and self abusing himself with a toothpick in his urethra (witnessed by me). He loudly stated he would no longer stay in a room with a black man. We moved him out of respect to pt#2. Pt #2 wanted him to stay because he found the whole thing amusing and accused me of playing favorites to pt#1. He told management I moved the pt because he didnt want to be in a room with a black man. What would you have done?

    If I was in charge of the hospital I would make legal advice available to the nursing staff at all times. All of the above happened on night shifts. I now work day shift and it is so nice to know that I can call Risk Managment for advice.
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    Quote from Kandake
    Are you saying he might have hurt the staff if he didn't get his way? Do most hospitals manage that way? By buckling down when physically intimidated by patient's family members?

    I am just curious.
    Nah. They won't buckle if it's simply a question of staff safety.

    Now money, that's a different story. The white flag will go up post haste.

    Yes, I'm being (partly) sarcastic.
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    I posted the link about the facts in the case from a court document filed.

    The issue is that it was discussed how to handle the family. There was a meeting, with leadership, then a staff meeting. They notified the employee at home, as well as the employees on the unit who were black. They posted a note on the chart. Someone took a picture of the note. Once the employee returned to work, they "showed her a picture of the note."

    They also contacted the chain of command while the event happened; it took some time for the legal department to get involved. Once the chain of command to the legal department got involved, they notified the family that the could not honor their wishes because its the law. The charge nurse CONTINUED to not assign any black staff to the child. It lasted a month AFTER the practice was supposed to be stopped. That was WRONG.

    If the charge nurse was trying to protect staff, then the charge nurse should have voiced their concerns about potential conflict, could there we security on the unit in case they may have to prevent the dad from visiting, etc. There could have been a more coordinated safety plan for ethical issues like this, but there wasn't, hence, violation, lawsuit, and settlement when all is said and done, and that is acceptable, because they failed to not adhere or make a plan to deal with the alternatives. This attitude if folding like cards when you think something is unsafe, is troubling...You have a right to advocate did your staff, I have no dispute about that, but if there was a "alarm" of danger, other protective policies should be in place. Not everyone may agree with it, but there are better ways to "accommodate" situations like this, regardless of race, religion, belief system, etc...and it happens occasionally. And when that happens, it is up to us to stand tall, and not back down...if they want their preference and want to take their business elsewhere, let them go; if they want to stay because if quality of care, they will have to be responsible in adhering to the rules; document any issues or suspicions, etc, if they threaten to sue; they don't have a leg to stand in if there is a paper trail that the family are proud racists. We have tools to combat such nonsense, let's continue to use them.
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