Hospital Bans Black Nurses From Caring for White Baby at Father's Request - page 11

Customer service run amok. I'm a Black nurse in a very white state. During my tour of Nursing Home Hell, one resident added a note to his chart saying "Caucasian caregivers only." Oddly... Read More

  1. Visit  psu_213 profile page
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    Quote from Kandake
    Are you saying he might have hurt the staff if he didn't get his way? Do most hospitals manage that way? By buckling down when physically intimidated by patient's family members?

    I am just curious.
    I am not going to defend the hospital for what they did for the next month. I am trying to defend the charge nurse who was working that shift and decided to change the assignment. Even if the guy did not specifically say, "I am going to hurt you," I think a reasonable person would, in their mind, think the man would resort to violence given the views that are represented by the symbol on his body. In that case I would reassign the nurse and then contact administration about what to do about this man who I find to be a threat. If the hospital administration puts a note on the chart, then they are breaking the law and should be punished, but I totally respect the actions of the charge nurse that day for that shift.
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  2. Visit  Kandake profile page
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    No wonder racists can thrive in a multicultural society, people will simply bend over backwards to accommodate their beliefs.
  3. Visit  klone profile page
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    I'm not necessarily faulting the charge nurse for her decision for that shift. I'm faulting the nurse manager for what she did for the entire month.
  4. Visit  Kandake profile page
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    Quote from psu_213
    I am not going to defend the hospital for what they did for the next month. I am trying to defend the charge nurse who was working that shift and decided to change the assignment. Even if the guy did not specifically say, "I am going to hurt you," I think a reasonable person would, in their mind, think the man would resort to violence given the views that are represented by the symbol on his body. In that case I would reassign the nurse and then contact administration about what to do about this man who I find to be a threat. If the hospital administration puts a note on the chart, then they are breaking the law and should be punished, but I totally respect the actions of the charge nurse that day for that shift.
    I understand your point now.
  5. Visit  rngolfer53 profile page
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    Quote from anotherone
    doung something illegal for a day is also violating a law.
    Yes, it is. But continuing for a month, with apparently no attempt to come into compliance with the law shows a great deal of bad faith.

    I can understand the charge nurse, with limited options and an immediate decision required, saying OK for this shift. And informing management for its decision on whether the request will continue to be honored.
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  6. Visit  dudette10 profile page
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    And people will lose their jobs and the hospital will have to pay a buttload of money to the nurse all because of one ******* and the difficult dilemma he placed everyone in. I sincerely believe the charge nurse continued to not assign black nurses because she wanted to protect them...not out of any discriminatory motivation.
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  7. Visit  anotherone profile page
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    Quote from barbyann
    This is about so much more than black/white, male/female. I have found myself in the charge role many times and been uncertain about so many things but race and gender requests have never been a grey area for me. Let me offer some examples that I made-up and in no way are they true or ever happened 1. Gang member's family requesting no one from the "Eastside" take care of their loved one. I would prefer not to have a gang fight on the floor. I called security for support and oddly the patient and the two security officers were all "buddies". They were able to convince the family that no rival gang members were working on our floor. 2. A pt who attempted to refuse care from a "little person" nurse because she was "scared of midgets". She hyperventilated after being told the assignment stands. By the end of the shift she liked her nurse.3. Pre-op transexual M>F with bipolar disorder, breasts and frilly nightgowns/boas, sparkly slippers, high pitch voice in for pancreatitis who was placed in a room with a large black truck-driving male pt. Pt #1 was being abusive to his Phillipino RN, screaming "get someone in here who can speak english and has a real American education". Pt #2 spoke through the curtain for him to calm down and be nice. Pt #1 goes on long tirade about being gang raped by 3 black men as a teen and starts screaming and self abusing himself with a toothpick in his urethra (witnessed by me). He loudly stated he would no longer stay in a room with a black man. We moved him out of respect to pt#2. Pt #2 wanted him to stay because he found the whole thing amusing and accused me of playing favorites to pt#1. He told management I moved the pt because he didnt want to be in a room with a black man. What would you have done?If I was in charge of the hospital I would make legal advice available to the nursing staff at all times. All of the above happened on night shifts. I now work day shift and it is so nice to know that I can call Risk Managment for advice.
    hahahahahahahahahah.! i think i can totally see and believe the first and third scenario happening
  8. Visit  rngolfer53 profile page
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    Quote from psu_213
    Well, I certainly don't want to be the charge nurse who didn't reassign her only to find her harmed after the shift. I have a hard time believing that my finances are going to be protected by federal law when I am sued for not protecting a staff member who was threatened by a family member.
    The charge nurse could and should inform security and management of the facts, and make sure the nurse is given an appropriate level of protection while on hospital grounds.

    The charge nurse should also ask the assigned nurse what she wants to do, with the understanding that the PTB will be addressing the situation asap.
  9. Visit  kalevra profile page
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    Customer satisfaction quota needs to be met. So nurses take a hit once again.
    itrust, KelRN215, wooh, and 1 other like this.
  10. Visit  Bortaz, RN profile page
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    Quote from Kandake
    I find it sad that some of the so called nurses here are ignorant of discrimination laws.
    And what, exactly, makes them "so called" nurses? Your post is ignorant, and I don't know why "so called" nurses like yourself are allowed to have jobs.


    Oh, did my comment sound stupid? Yeah, so did yours. Not having a firm grasp of the complicated discrimination situation doesn't take away a whit of someone's "nurse" credit.
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  11. Visit  dudette10 profile page
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    My own response a couple posts up got me to thinking. Many posts here point to the motivation of the requestor, implying that some requests are legitimate and others are not. Ok, I can see that.Let's also apply the concept of motivation to the decision to not assign black nurses to this man's baby. The decision was NOT made in order to withhold a preferred assignment from a black nurse; the decision was made to--I'm assuming--protect a black nurse from an unfavorable assignment.Many laws hinge on motivation, e.g. The difference between manslaughter and homicide. The application of discrimination laws should be no different.
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  12. Visit  thelema13 profile page
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    Unfortunately, patients are always are right, make the best medical decisions for themselves, and have Press-Ganey on their side.
    wooh, kalevra, and anotherone like this.
  13. Visit  Bortaz, RN profile page
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    By the way, having a swastika tat does not make one a neo-nazi (or any other kind of nazi). Most of the rednecks that wear the swastika tattoos couldn't tell you the first thing about National Socialists. Not sure why the mouth breather in this thread is being labeled a nazi.
    mariebailey, KelRN215, Spidey's mom, and 2 others like this.

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