Hemmingsen: Doctor Nurse?

  1. full story: hemmingsen: doctor nurse? [keloland tv,sd]
    excuse me, but i'm a throwback to that unconfused time called the 1950s when a "doctor"...the doctor...was somebody you went to for a health problem, preferably life threatening. you didn't have to figure out "doctor of what."

    since those halcyon times...at least the way i prefer to remember them with simple v-8s before it became a vegetable drink, and cars with grills strong enough to use as a bottle opener before twist offs...we have sliced the pie thinner and thinner. oh, there were always a few of those super smart phds around but they kind of hid that in a sea of associate degrees, bachelor degrees and a small pond of master's degrees. they probably figured you would mistake them for a medical doctor and stiff them for the bill or be thought of as the local "sawbones" and nothing they could say could convince you that they didn't know the islets of langerhans were in your pancreas and not a tropical vacation spot for real doctors. ....

    full story: hemmingsen: doctor nurse? [keloland tv,sd]
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  2. 49 Comments

  3. by   sirI
    Well,.......hmmmmmmm.
  4. by   VickyRN
    The correct term for a doctor of medicine is physician.... they certainly don't own the term "doctor." They just need to get over it
  5. by   student4ever
    What's so wrong with a doctorate of nursing? You can get a doctorate of music theory... it just means that you've studied farther than the regular staff/floor nurse. Just as many professors of literature have their doctorates, why should nursing educators not have the same level to ascribe to? I personally like having professors who are PhDs... it means they have a more extensive knowledge base, and have done research work. Why is that not allowed in the medical field? Because the term "doctor" confuses people who deem the term "doctor" to mean physician? It's not like a doctorate of nursing gives an MD degree. I'm all for higher education and an unlimited base of knowledge. Sounds like this author belongs in another century... where women are only teachers or nurses (and by nurses, I mean that they give bed baths, provide comfort care, dress wounds, etc.) and men must be the doctors, the lawyers, the businessmen. Today nurses go far and beyond the basics of nursing and become specialists in their field, become flight nurses and paramedics, do intubations, become nurse practitioners where they see patients, prescribe medications, order lab tests and xrays, and a whole myriad of things the men like this author never imagined they could do. Women are doctors, surgeons, hospital administrators. And there are "just plain nurses." There is nothing wrong with any of these levels - and there should be nothing wrong with offering a doctorate of nursing - not an MD nursing degree... but a doctorate of nursing, to reward those who do research, who work hard to improve nursing as a field, and who dedicate their lives to building a strong group of nurses who will take over when the nurses of today retire.
  6. by   llg
    The author of that article is so igonorant about so many things that I don't know where to start. I hope the article yields a lot of replies (that are printed in the same source) that educate the people of South Dakota.

    Oh ... my ... God ....

    llg, RN, PhD
  7. by   sunnyjohn
    Will someone smarter and clamer than I please send the author of this articel an e-mail and enlighten him on the nursing doctorate. I am afraid if I do it I may start foaming with the bubbles from my soap box.

    "I thank you for your support."
  8. by   babynursewannab
    The author is apparently unaware of two things.

    1. The term doctor was used for PhD's looooooooooooong before it was used for MDs

    -and-

    2. There is no current socio-economic rift in the universe nor humans blubbering about and wandering the streets in need of straight-jackets in response to the current LARGE number of PhD nurses out there in the world already.

    Those "Doctor Nurses" could teach the author a little bit about something called RESEARCH.
  9. by   sunnyjohn
    Quote from babynursewannab
    The author is apparently unaware of two things.

    1. The term doctor was used for PhD's looooooooooooong before it was used for MDs

    -and-

    2. There is no current socio-economic rift in the universe nor humans blubbering about and wandering the streets in need of straight-jackets in response to the current LARGE number of PhD nurses out there in the world already.

    Those "Doctor Nurses" could teach the author a little bit about something called RESEARCH.
    Well babynursewannab,

    You and I will NOT be the ones sending this guy a "Friendly" e-mail.

    We might send him one of those nastygrams. Yeah he shoulda done his research.
  10. by   zenman
    I sent him a note asking why would he put his lack of knowledge out for everyone to see. Also asked, "Where is South Dakota anyway?"
  11. by   NRSKarenRN
    allnurses viewers just love to send email! :d


    contact the author at: shemmingsen@keloland.com
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    will pass this one on to our friends at the center for nursing advocacy!
    Last edit by NRSKarenRN on Sep 14, '05
  12. by   sirI
    Quote from zenman
    I sent him a note asking why would he put his lack of knowledge out for everyone to see. Also asked, "Where is South Dakota anyway?"
    I think I will join you in that emotion, zenman.
  13. by   NRSKarenRN
    august 31, 2005
    sdsu kicks off state's only doctorate in nursing program

    in spring 2008, the college of nursing at south dakota state university will make history when it graduates the state's first doctorate in nursing class.

    it's a milestone that sandra bunkers is looking forward to with great anticipation after 26 years in education.

    "i came here for this reason," said bunkers, the new head of graduate nursing and project director of the doctoral program. "i'm really excited about this and the faculty as a whole is excited. it's the goal of the college to develop a really strong ph.d. program for this area."

    the college will hold an inaugural gala celebration of the ph.d. program in nursing sept. 15 at the performing arts center at 6:30 p.m. the gathering is designed for the doctoral students, the board of regents and selected guests.

    bunkers, who taught in the doctoral program at marquette university and was chair of the department of nursing at augustana college before coming to sdsu, is also responsible with the management of a $753,622 federal grant the college received july 1.

    the grant, which is spread out over three years, was awarded from the health resources and services administration in the department of health and human services.

    "what the grant does is it gives us a good launching pad to start the program," said bunkers. "it will help pay for faculty salaries, supplies, travel and for consultants to come in. after that we will be self-supporting through tuition and fees."

    orientation for the first cohort of ph.d. students was august 25-26 with classes officially starting sept. 16. most of the coursework will be in the health science center at usdsu in sioux falls. some classes will be at sdsu and the university of south dakota.

    open to south dakota nurses and faculty with master's degrees, the curriculum is three years in length; however, students may stretch out the time frame depending on their circumstances.

    bunkers interviewed each of the 13 students accepted into the program, and she serves as their advisor. she called them "quite interesting," coming from the four-state region of minnesota, iowa, north dakota and south dakota.

    "some are teachers and some are administrators in service organizations," she said. "some see this as a way to improve their position, and for others it's faculty who want to stay in teaching and know that a terminal degree is needed for that."

    associate professors and professors teaching in the master's program will teach the doctoral curriculum, which consists of seven core courses and two electives. sixty credit hours are required for the degree.

    in the end the ph.d. program will prepare candidates as nurse scientists who will serve as researchers, faculty members and health-care administrators.

    they will be educated to develop proposals to study, analyze and solve problems in health care. specifically, the focus will be health promotion and disease prevention with underserved populations in rural south dakota.

    "we're going to stress nurses becoming scholars and emphasize how important it is to have nursing research in education and theory development," bunkers said. "looking at how we can improve life in the rural areas of the state will be especially important.

    "nurse scientists work in academic and clinical settings developing knowledge that is essential for the practice of nursing," she added. "nursing knowledge development shapes the future of nursing practice, education and increases the effectiveness of care provided to clients."

    program info: phd in nursing
  14. by   ali_gator
    This is the most uninformed thing I have read all week! Doctor is a title, and it certianly does not apply exclusively to MDs! And what exactly is a "real doctor" anyway?

    And...within the next 15-20 years, doctors of nursing are expected to be very common.

    This guy needs to do his homework. I'm always amazed at how woefully uninformed some journalists are...heaven forbid they do any actual reporting!

    What an idiot. I'm would write to him and tell him how stupid he is, but I need to be at school early in the morning.

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