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Sep 14, 2005 12:58 PM

Help 'too late' to save patients

by brian Staff

The authorities in New Orleans have removed 45 bodies from a city hospital badly hit by flooding.

The dead were geriatric patients thought to have expired in the heat after Hurricane Katrina knocked out the hospital's power supply.

Hospital officials have given grim details of the final hours of those who died in Memorial Medical Center, which was abandoned to floodwaters more than a week ago.

Despite the desperate efforts of staff and family members to keep them cool, it is thought that many vulnerable patients simply could not cope with the stifling conditions in the damaged medical centre.

One look at the seven-foot (two metres) high water mark on the hospital walls is enough to conjure up a vision of the chaos that ensued as hundreds were trapped by rising floods.

Hospital staff had begun evacuating patients before Hurricane Katrina struck the city. But once the waters came, their job became horrendously difficult.

Full Story: They left us all to die, says nurse


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No. 1
from sirI
Old Sep 14, 2005, 01:09 PM

Very, very sad.
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No. 2
from mattsmom81
Old Sep 14, 2005, 01:24 PM

I cannot even begin to imagine the difficulties they faced. Nor can I imagine the level of incompetence of the leadership there...with a city known to be under sea level, contingencies and disaster plans should have been in place. I cannot imagine living someplace like that.
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No. 3
from URO-RN
Old Sep 14, 2005, 01:28 PM

The hospital claims that these corpses were from people who had passed away before the storm. I hope they are telling the truth.
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No. 4
from VickyRN
Old Sep 14, 2005, 01:33 PM

So sad and tragic beyond words And so preventable.... no excuse will ever suffice
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No. 5
Old Sep 14, 2005, 02:55 PM

In retrospect I think that it is obvious that inpatients should have been evacuated before storm hit. I think they needed to keep ERs open with a skeleton crew. It just seems like a lot of people down there were living in a dream world. This seems obvious in retrospect but I don't know how it seemed before the fact.
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from papawjohn
Old Sep 14, 2005, 03:08 PM

Default 'shelter in place' on the Gulf Coast
Hey Y'all

Just a word about the general scheme of 'sheltering in place' in the event of a predictable disaster. I live on TampaBay. My hospital's generators are at ground level. The plan is to stay in business with staff called in.

(Believe it or not the hospital's code for a severe weather/hurricane is "code brown"--I couldn't make that up).

We are fortunate at NOT being below sea level here--but a 'cane that coincided with a high tide would put vitually all of the area under water for several hours.

Question: What do y'all think of staying in place--possibly for days after a storm, possibly without electricity/oxygen/suction -vs- evacuating the hospital (hugely expensive and dangerous for critically ill pts) before the storm occurs.

Papaw John
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No. 7
Old Sep 14, 2005, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by URO-RN
The hospital claims that these corpses were from people who had passed away before the storm. I hope they are telling the truth.

I worked at a major regional medical center, in upstate NY. We once were blocked in by a major blizzard, as a matter of fact, the entire area was from December 25 to January 3. After we used all the morgue slots and all the medical schools vacant storage slots, we were reduced to placing the dead patients in body bags and sticking them in snow banks, properly marked. Fortunately, we did not lose one. People die in hospitals. People die in unbearable heat. I wonder how many of the deaths were related to these two causes? Most, if not all, I venture to think.

Grannynurse
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No. 8
Old Sep 14, 2005, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by papawjohn
Hey Y'all

Just a word about the general scheme of 'sheltering in place' in the event of a predictable disaster. I live on TampaBay. My hospital's generators are at ground level. The plan is to stay in business with staff called in.

(Believe it or not the hospital's code for a severe weather/hurricane is "code brown"--I couldn't make that up).

We are fortunate at NOT being below sea level here--but a 'cane that coincided with a high tide would put vitually all of the area under water for several hours.

Question: What do y'all think of staying in place--possibly for days after a storm, possibly without electricity/oxygen/suction -vs- evacuating the hospital (hugely expensive and dangerous for critically ill pts) before the storm occurs.

Papaw John
You must work at TGH. They still have those generators on the ground floor huh. Our problem wasn't the water but the wind damage that tore off the roofs of two of our hospitals. Aside from the expense, there is an inherent danger to transporting critically ill patients, such as having sufficient staff to manage them during the transfer. Having an appropriate facility, with appropriately trained and experience staff available, is another problem. Once the hurricane has pasted, usually within hours and the storm surge receeds, large portable generators can and are transported in to help necessary facilities. Charlie hit late on a Friday afternoon. By early Monday morning, large portable generators had been transported and were being used. Too bad FEMA wasn't as quick.

Grannynurse
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from oramar
Old Sep 14, 2005, 08:55 PM

Default just read the news
Originally Posted by papawjohn
Hey Y'all

Just a word about the general scheme of 'sheltering in place' in the event of a predictable disaster. I live on TampaBay. My hospital's generators are at ground level. The plan is to stay in business with staff called in.

(Believe it or not the hospital's code for a severe weather/hurricane is "code brown"--I couldn't make that up).

We are fortunate at NOT being below sea level here--but a 'cane that coincided with a high tide would put vitually all of the area under water for several hours.

Question: What do y'all think of staying in place--possibly for days after a storm, possibly without electricity/oxygen/suction -vs- evacuating the hospital (hugely expensive and dangerous for critically ill pts) before the storm occurs.

Papaw John
I think we just had a perfect example of what happens when the worst happens and the hospital is not evacuated.
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