Helen Mirren says many hookers came from nursing profession - page 7
actress Helen Mirren goes on record to say she thinks many hookers were nurses!!! :eek::eek::eek: I am so offended and incensed by this.....is there some way to collectively demand an apology? I used to be such a fan of hers... Read More
- 0Jun 16, '10 by aklgapQuote from kate82100 hours for $1000 is $10/hour. Something tells me that you are exaggerating??? I could do better than that and I am middle-aged, over weight and completely disinterested.No brothels do not recruit. They have plenty of girls contacting them without having to do that. Legal prostitutes like to portray themselves as nurses for some reason. Perhaps it makes them feel better for what they are doing or perhaps they aspire to be nurses. I'm not sure what their reasons are but they do it. This is why Helen made the statement she did and for no other reason. She wasn't trying to make the nursing profession look bad. Also, working in prostitution does not guarantee riches. All of the shows on TV about Nevada prostitution are extremely inaccurate. Most of those prostitutes work 14 hours a day 7 days a week and don't make near what a nurse does each year. Do you really think that real nurses would work 100 hours a week for $1000 before taxes? I highly doubt it.
- 0Jun 16, '10 by rn/writer GuideQuote from kate82Maybe they can rationalize what they are doing by thinking of it as performing a "medical service." Or they're capitalizing on the fact that nurses consistently score high in public trust. Than there's that "naughty nurse" image that most of us just hate.No brothels do not recruit. They have plenty of girls contacting them without having to do that. Legal prostitutes like to portray themselves as nurses for some reason. Perhaps it makes them feel better for what they are doing or perhaps they aspire to be nurses. I'm not sure what their reasons are but they do it. This is why Helen made the statement she did and for no other reason. She wasn't trying to make the nursing profession look bad.
I just don't think Helen Mirren is the villain in all of this. Misguided? To some extent. Irresponsible? Yeah, a little. But worthy of our shock, disgust and indignation? That's ascribing far too much power to her credibility.
Celebrities shoot their mouths off all the time. It's naive to think that's going to change any time soon.
Also, working in prostitution does not guarantee riches. All of the shows on TV about Nevada prostitution are extremely inaccurate. Most of those prostitutes work 14 hours a day 7 days a week and don't make near what a nurse does each year. Do you really think that real nurses would work 100 hours a week for $1000 before taxes? I highly doubt it.Last edit by rn/writer on Jun 16, '10
- 0Jun 16, '10 by smallnurse10I'm not exaggerating. Of course some of the girls make more but a lot of them do not. The house minimum in a house of prostitution in northern Nevada is $100 for sex. The house takes half of earnings including tips. The economy is very bad right now which hurts prostitution. If a girl only had three customers a day for the house minimum she would make $150 dollars a day. She then has to pay room and board of $30 a day and her expenses. She has to work 14 hours a day regardless of how many customers she has. So no I'm not exaggerating.
- 3Jun 16, '10 by joyouterHelen Mirren's remark linking nurses as the "ideal source for prostitutes" reeks of ignorance, backwardness and is entirely inappropriate. If we are to consider nurses in that role, then one may ask is the theater/acting profession for both men and women not unlike this in many ways? Abuse, inhuman treatment of starry eyed fledgling actors who are willing to do anything to succeed actually places Mirren and company in a position of close proximity to "marketing of human kind" or otherwise known within the role of entertainment.
Historically, one may argue that Florence Nightingale did employ and train women, former prostitutes, in the rudimentary art of nursing the sick during the Crimean War, where many of these women played vital roles in saving lives through skilled nursing. It was evident that a "self respecting" British woman during that period would not consider enlisting as a nurse. Nightingale's background, compassion and political acumen assisted her determinationand negotiation with the UK Foreign Ministry to carry out care of wounded on the battlefield
Helen Mirren, as a woman, well renowned for her talents in acting, thoroughly disappointments through her limited grasp and flippant remark about nurses on national television, has inadvertently, misused her influence in the media and denigrated the level of the nursing profession, to the arch stereotypical role which has dogged our profession.
Nursing today, is incredibly demanding, is not about pleasantry, but is more about education, healing and demands a well educated, trained and competent practioner. Unlike the Hollywood industry, where huge amounts of money are arrogantly spent, nursing is a highly stressed, badly paid profession, and little is known about the extreme levels of knowledge and skills, most notabley in Hollywood.
Feeding the paradigm of ignorance through flippant, stupid remarks in the media is not desirable behaviour and unfortunately reflects as such, upon Ms. Mirren.
- 6Jun 16, '10 by P_RN Senior ModeratorSomehow this whole interaction between Helen Mirren and David Letterman strikes me as a tempest in a teapot.
Sairy Gamp was the image of Nurses until Miss Nightingale's reforms became the rule rather than the exception. If you read Dickens and other authors of the time you see that a bottle of Port and a place to sleep (maybe) was considered good enough for the women who worked 7 days a week 14-15 hours a day. They weren't trained, they weren't interviewed and they weren't very clean. They carried slop buckets uncovered to the sewer room, they mopped using the same water for hours at a time, from the sewer to the OR to the ward. They may have worn an apron but was it washed and changed daily or even weekly?
Look at the infection rate back then before Lister and Semmelweis and others figured out that GERMS carried from the morgue to the operating room on the doctors' hands, shirt cuffs and coats caused infection. No one would be caught "dead" going to a hospital for anything unless there was no other choice.
Modern Nurses can say that Miss Nightingale was just another woman at the time, but to me she signifies the originator deep respect that Nurses deserve. Miss Mirren may have misspoken, but the origin of the prostitute "nurse" was based in fact.
Any rational person in this century doesn't have a leg to stand on if they really believe that is the case today, Nevada notwithstanding.
Plus I'm 65 and *I* LIKED her dress.