Helen Mirren says many hookers came from nursing profession - page 5

actress Helen Mirren goes on record to say she thinks many hookers were nurses!!! :eek::eek::eek: I am so offended and incensed by this.....is there some way to collectively demand an apology? I... Read More

  1. Visit  salsa12 profile page
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    Hey, don't go shooting the messenger...maybe Helen Mirren is correct. Is is such a stretch that sometimes nurses leave the profession for better pay and working conditions?
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  2. Visit  nursestudentAZ profile page
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    Quote from insideout
    Sounds like a bit of a stretch to me....from RN to hooker?
    Not necessarily. I watched a story awhile back on the Bunny Ranch in Nevada (a Dateline or something like it), and one of the featured women was a nurse who said she got sick of 12-hour shifts and now makes a lot more money in this line of work in less time. Her coworker at the ranch was the opposite--she was in her early 20s and dreamed of being an RN. She worked at the ranch to pay for her education. So, I don't find it too hard to believe that Helen Mirren met similar women. Oprah also did a segment on the Bunny Ranch--some of the women had bachelors degrees and working at the ranch was their part-time job.
    I think Helen Mirren was stating an observation about the women at the brothel--not belittling the nursing profession or making generalizations about nurses.
    Last edit by nursestudentAZ on Jun 16, '10 : Reason: added more content
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  3. Visit  romantic profile page
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    Quote from kate82
    She made that statement based on what she heard from the girls at the brothel. I am from Nevada and know Susan Austin. A lot of the girls say they are nurses for whatever reason, but they are not. Since she heard this from a lot of the girls she assumed it to be true. No reason to get all upset about it.

    I respectfully disagree with you.

    As a nurse I DO care about our image as professionals. And I DO want the public to respect nursing profession. Did you ever heard someone saying that physicians who are also used to naked bodies behave themselves in a specific way... If I want to be respected by physicians and my patients, I do not think that I should close my eyes to such a statement. It is a very dangerous statement because Helen Mirren is not merely a neighbor next door (I don't care much about that opinion) but a well known public figure. She is an actress. And people listen to her. And, unfortunately, not everyone as understanding and forgiving as you are.

    The image of a nurse for years and years was shown as an outgoing with easy attitude who has no problem to have sex with physicians, technicians, patients, and her fellow-male-nurses. This image is very difficult to erase. Even today a nurse can hear inappropriate things from the male patients sometimes.


    In order to make such a statement, one has to have a good data; Otherwise, Helen Mirren has to apologize on the same show for what she said because her words can be damaging to nursing image. It is my strong opinion.
  4. Visit  kabish81054 profile page
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    After watching that, HOW could she possibly imply that most of the prostitutes there were nurses???? She remarked that because we see naked bodies all the time it was a natural progression to go into that profession of hooker??!!!
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    Quote from romantic
    I respectfully disagree with you.

    As a nurse I DO care about our image as professionals. And I DO want the public to respect nursing profession. Did you ever heard someone saying that physicians who are also used to naked bodies behave themselves in a specific way... If I want to be respected by physicians and my patients.
    *** Well from reading here on allnurses I have discovered the path to that repect is to get a BSN. Apperently if you have a BSN then you can be well respected even if you are a protitute.
  6. Visit  smallnurse10 profile page
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    You can disagree with me all you want but I was merely pointing out the reason she made the statement she did. She wasn't trying to belittle the nursing profession. She made that statement based on what the girls told her in the brothel which is where she got her "data" from.
    Last edit by smallnurse10 on Jun 16, '10
  7. Visit  rn/writer profile page
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    Quote from kate82
    You can disagree with me all you want but I was merely pointing out the reason she made the statement she did. She wasn't trying to belittle the nursing profession. She made that statement based on what the girls told her in the brothel.

    Could it be that the brothel itself recruits nurses, knowing that for some women, the pay is too low and the stress is too high to continue in their chosen field. Think about it. Nurses are trained to provide good customer service. Touching people goes with the territory. Nurses have to possess a certain level of intelligence. Student loans and living expenses can be intimidating. Management, patients, families and coworkers are often less than appreciative of your efforts. Put it all together, and you can see (if not believe) that turning tricks could sound like good idea.

    If that's the case, it isn't so much that nurses in general tend to become hookers, but rather that the bosses at particular brothel (and probably some others, as well) have learned how to exploit the weaknesses of nurses who are tired of doing battle on the job front.
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  8. Visit  smallnurse10 profile page
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    No brothels do not recruit. They have plenty of girls contacting them without having to do that. Legal prostitutes like to portray themselves as nurses for some reason. Perhaps it makes them feel better for what they are doing or perhaps they aspire to be nurses. I'm not sure what their reasons are but they do it. This is why Helen made the statement she did and for no other reason. She wasn't trying to make the nursing profession look bad. Also, working in prostitution does not guarantee riches. All of the shows on TV about Nevada prostitution are extremely inaccurate. Most of those prostitutes work 14 hours a day 7 days a week and don't make near what a nurse does each year. Do you really think that real nurses would work 100 hours a week for $1000 before taxes? I highly doubt it.
  9. Visit  aklgap profile page
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    Quote from kate82
    No brothels do not recruit. They have plenty of girls contacting them without having to do that. Legal prostitutes like to portray themselves as nurses for some reason. Perhaps it makes them feel better for what they are doing or perhaps they aspire to be nurses. I'm not sure what their reasons are but they do it. This is why Helen made the statement she did and for no other reason. She wasn't trying to make the nursing profession look bad. Also, working in prostitution does not guarantee riches. All of the shows on TV about Nevada prostitution are extremely inaccurate. Most of those prostitutes work 14 hours a day 7 days a week and don't make near what a nurse does each year. Do you really think that real nurses would work 100 hours a week for $1000 before taxes? I highly doubt it.
    100 hours for $1000 is $10/hour. Something tells me that you are exaggerating??? I could do better than that and I am middle-aged, over weight and completely disinterested.
  10. Visit  rn/writer profile page
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    Quote from kate82
    No brothels do not recruit. They have plenty of girls contacting them without having to do that. Legal prostitutes like to portray themselves as nurses for some reason. Perhaps it makes them feel better for what they are doing or perhaps they aspire to be nurses. I'm not sure what their reasons are but they do it. This is why Helen made the statement she did and for no other reason. She wasn't trying to make the nursing profession look bad.
    Maybe they can rationalize what they are doing by thinking of it as performing a "medical service." Or they're capitalizing on the fact that nurses consistently score high in public trust. Than there's that "naughty nurse" image that most of us just hate.

    I just don't think Helen Mirren is the villain in all of this. Misguided? To some extent. Irresponsible? Yeah, a little. But worthy of our shock, disgust and indignation? That's ascribing far too much power to her credibility.

    Celebrities shoot their mouths off all the time. It's naive to think that's going to change any time soon.

    Also, working in prostitution does not guarantee riches. All of the shows on TV about Nevada prostitution are extremely inaccurate. Most of those prostitutes work 14 hours a day 7 days a week and don't make near what a nurse does each year. Do you really think that real nurses would work 100 hours a week for $1000 before taxes? I highly doubt it.
    Criminy crickets! That is so not a good idea! But why are girls contacting the brothels if they're basically just signing up to be slaves?
    Last edit by rn/writer on Jun 16, '10
  11. Visit  smallnurse10 profile page
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    I'm not exaggerating. Of course some of the girls make more but a lot of them do not. The house minimum in a house of prostitution in northern Nevada is $100 for sex. The house takes half of earnings including tips. The economy is very bad right now which hurts prostitution. If a girl only had three customers a day for the house minimum she would make $150 dollars a day. She then has to pay room and board of $30 a day and her expenses. She has to work 14 hours a day regardless of how many customers she has. So no I'm not exaggerating.
  12. Visit  smallnurse10 profile page
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    I agree with you RN/writer that Helen is not the villain. Girls contact the brothels because they believe they are going to make a lot of cash. This is not always reality though.
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  13. Visit  joyouter profile page
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    Helen Mirren's remark linking nurses as the "ideal source for prostitutes" reeks of ignorance, backwardness and is entirely inappropriate. If we are to consider nurses in that role, then one may ask is the theater/acting profession for both men and women not unlike this in many ways? Abuse, inhuman treatment of starry eyed fledgling actors who are willing to do anything to succeed actually places Mirren and company in a position of close proximity to "marketing of human kind" or otherwise known within the role of entertainment.
    Historically, one may argue that Florence Nightingale did employ and train women, former prostitutes, in the rudimentary art of nursing the sick during the Crimean War, where many of these women played vital roles in saving lives through skilled nursing. It was evident that a "self respecting" British woman during that period would not consider enlisting as a nurse. Nightingale's background, compassion and political acumen assisted her determinationand negotiation with the UK Foreign Ministry to carry out care of wounded on the battlefield
    Helen Mirren, as a woman, well renowned for her talents in acting, thoroughly disappointments through her limited grasp and flippant remark about nurses on national television, has inadvertently, misused her influence in the media and denigrated the level of the nursing profession, to the arch stereotypical role which has dogged our profession.
    Nursing today, is incredibly demanding, is not about pleasantry, but is more about education, healing and demands a well educated, trained and competent practioner. Unlike the Hollywood industry, where huge amounts of money are arrogantly spent, nursing is a highly stressed, badly paid profession, and little is known about the extreme levels of knowledge and skills, most notabley in Hollywood.
    Feeding the paradigm of ignorance through flippant, stupid remarks in the media is not desirable behaviour and unfortunately reflects as such, upon Ms. Mirren.
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