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  1. Quote from diane227
    Dear iam46yearsold: Where do you or did you work for HCA and what was your job there? Yea, they run a good company at no equipment and very short staffing along with unethical dealings, attempting to place the nurses in a position of liability. I worked for a small county hospital in Texas were I was the director of the ED. HCA bought out this facility. At the time they did not want to take any non funded patients if they did not have to, so they were trying to come up with some innovation ways to prevent these patients from getting into the system. This was just as a law came out requiring everyone who comes to the emergency department to have a minimum of a medical screening exam. They hired a bunch of lawyers from Vincent and Elkins (big firm in Houston) to help them figure out how they could get around this law. They were trying to come up with some definition of "medical screening exam" which was stupid as it was already outlined under the law. In any case, we go into this big meeting and they start telling me that the nurses at triage will be performing the medical screening exams. If the nurse does not feel it is an emergency, the patient is sent away. I thought I was going to have a STROKE. I told the administration along with the attorneys (who by the way had never read the nurse practice act), that there was no way what so ever that the nurse at the triage desk would be performing the medical screening exams. This is practicing medicine without a license and goes directly against the law. In addition, it places the nurse at great liability. I guarantee you that if they had gone ahead with this policy, the first screw up and the nurse would have been hanging out to dry be herself. I had to read the nurse practice act to them and informed them in no uncertain terms that the nurses in that ED would not be doing this and if they tried to make them, they would all walk out. Additionally, I told them that I would report this event to the BNE and to the state health department. I thought the CEO was going to come across the podium and assault me. I got the hell out of that place as soon as I could. This is not the only example. They replaced our best physician group with some kind of group that had been thrown out of every other place they had tried to practice. I mean the care took a major nosedive and complaints went up. It was sad because it was a great ED, with great patient care and great outcomes. It all went down the drain with HCA. All they care about is $$$$ and I think it is unethical to make a profit for share holders on the backs of sick people. I will never work for any kind of for profit hospital again. They are in the lowest area of Dante's hell.
    Although I am new to nursing, I will be working for HCA as of Monday. I have been embroiled in the "need to make a profit" conersation in another industry (veterinary medicine). From what I have seen while touring the hospital, and in talking with friends who have worked for HCA, they are very happy. Frankly, I'd rather work for a company that is for profit, as I know I will have job security, and a chance for financial growth. BTW, MSE are done by nurses in most ERs in this area (Dallas). We all have to do what we have to do though, so I wish you luck with non-profit hospitals as well.

    Yang
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  2. I started a couple of months ago at a HCA hospital ( in a non rural city in Central Florida) - I am dismayed to find old, and I mean OLD equipment, walls that need painting, holes in the wall. And staffing that is terrible. They are making nurses take 6 patients on the PCU floor. With one aide for 30 patients. ICU has 3 critical patients per nurse. The admin is NOT honoring doctors orders to have certain 1 on 1 patients. Short staffing and canceling hours. Making people take call without pay. Admin says "don't like it leave". Yep- they are Nurses are leaving in droves-- Why don't they care about patients?
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  3. Here's a HCA trick...they say we are on an 8/80 pay period but cheat us. One way is by combinding the 2 weeks together. If you work 32 hours one week and 48 hours the next they pay you 80 hours of straigt time. The law states that if paid on an 8/80 pay period that each week stands alone! That means that they owe 8 hours of overtime pay for the week in which 48 hours were worked. If you work on an 8/80 pay period the law states that they must pay the HIGHER of either 8 hours per day or 40 hours per week.
    The second trick is to convert overtime into vacation time; let me explain. If you work 48 hours in one week ( 8 hours of overtime)and then 32 hours the 2nd week with one 8 hour vacation day, they move the 8 hours of overtime from the first week to pay for your 8 hours of vacation in the second week and pay 80 hours of STRAIGHT time. This occurs even if you have vacation time available. BOTH are ILLEGAL according to the Fair Labor Standards Act.
    We have tried to talk to the Human Resources Dept. and nothing changes so we will have a formal investigation done free of charge by calling the our states Wage and Hour Dept. They will not mention anyones name who starts an investigation.
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  4. I have had VERY BAD experiences with HCA. You are going to have to take this to the department of labor. You might want to go on their website to see if they address issues such as these. In the past, at a non HCA hospital they tried to do this, only pay overtime after 80 hours. They ended up paying a lot of overtime to staff and a big fine to the department of labor.
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  5. If you go to HCA you will find that you will be very unhappy in the long term.
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  6. Diane, Thanks for the suggestion!