Goodbye OT: RN's LOOSERS, LPN's WINNERS - page 2

From MSN, the new OT bill was passed. RN's you loose, LPN's win. Overhaul redefines overtime pay rules advertisement More lower-income workers are guaranteed overtime pay, but... Read More

  1. Visit  jemb profile page
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    "Registered nurses who are paid on an hourly basis should receive overtime pay. However, registered nurses who are registered by the appropriate State examining board generally meet the duties requirements for the learned professional exemption, and if paid on a salary basis of at least $455 per week, may be classified as exempt."

    Seems to me this says that RNs paid hourly, although meeting the professional requirements, will still be eligible for OT.

    Wonder how long it will take for hospitals to start offering salaries instead of hourly wages for RNs...

    Glad I'm in a union.
  2. Visit  mattsmom81 profile page
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    Hourly RN's will still need to be paid OT...at least that's the way I understand it. Administrative high dollar and salaried RN's will not qualify for automatic OT. I feel most hospitals will pay it anyway to staff, and administrators will (in my parts anyway) bargain for 'bonus' $$. My facility depends on a few die hards to work OT every week just to staff safely. They're not likely to utilize this IMO.

    I feel this law was amended primarily to reduce OT lawsuits.
    Last edit by mattsmom81 on Apr 22, '04
  3. Visit  walterrn profile page
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    The day I dont get paid my overtime is the day I'll be doing something else for a living..................They think there's a nursing shortage now? Take away our right to earn extra monies and watch the nursing shortage explosion.

    Walter the Nurse
  4. Visit  rjflyn profile page
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    Glad where I work we have a union and overtime is written in the contract. I'd be willing to hedge my bets that if management tried to take it out that that would be a issue we would go out on strike over.
    Rj
  5. Visit  oramar profile page
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    I have read several different articles and have read several different interpertations of how this will affect RNs. When I specifically read the regulations it appears that things will stay the way they are now. If you get overtime now for hours over 40 you will continue to get overtime under new regs. Managment will continue to be salaried. The situations is confusing because some people do not know that the regs. have been updated in last few days and are still quoting from the first proposed changes.
  6. Visit  Tweety profile page
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    Quote from walterrn
    The day I dont get paid my overtime is the day I'll be doing something else for a living..................They think there's a nursing shortage now? Take away our right to earn extra monies and watch the nursing shortage explosion.

    Walter the Nurse

    Exactly. Right now my employer is paying time and a half plus $15.00. I don't mind if they drop the $15.00, but don't mess with my time and a half. Honestly, if they are willing to pay agency nurses, contract nurses and travelers, and us the extra $15.00 I don't see them taking it away right now.

    Also, I'm quite a bit far away from $100,000.

    I'm not worried................yet.
  7. Visit  Tweety profile page
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    Quote from mattsmom81
    Hourly RN's will still need to be paid OT...at least that's the way I understand it. Administrative high dollar and salaried RN's will not qualify for automatic OT. I feel most hospitals will pay it anyway to staff, and administrators will (in my parts anyway) bargain for 'bonus' $$. My facility depends on a few die hards to work OT every week just to staff safely. They're not likely to utilize this IMO.

    I feel this law was amended primarily to reduce OT lawsuits.

    My spouse is an administrator. When he work another day and it's more than this 40 hours, he doesn't get time and a half. None of the administrators do. :angryfire

    Now they have a law to back them up. humph... :angryfire
  8. Visit  jkaee profile page
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    Tweety, does your spouse get comp time when he works over 40 hrs? When I was salary if I worked over I didn't get OT, but I could come in late or leave early some day if I wanted to. We kept track of it on a comp sheet. My husband is salary now, too, and works over 40 hrs but doesn't get compensated for it either. It's frustrating because if he needs to leave early or needs a day off, he still has to use Vac time, even though he's put a lot more time in than he was paid for. :angryfire That's why when I work if I'm stay over even 15 mins I put it down as overtime.....we already don't get DT for working holidays, so I count every minute. I'm certainly not going to work for free!
  9. Visit  laughingfairy profile page
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    I think one of the other pieces that may come into play is individual state law. If your state law still says that you qualify for OT pay then they have to give it it you and vice vs. States just can't violate federal law. For example if state labor law says min. wage is $2.00 and federal was $8.00, then the federal would supercede. However if the state changed it to $8.50 the state amount would be the minimum. States do still hold the right to make their own laws and rules. I think that everyone should start looking very closely at the individual state laws.
  10. Visit  movealong profile page
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    The individuals companies can still elect to pay overtime, the bill doesn't prevent them from doing so, if I understand it correctly. Personally, I think the hospitals or other companies using nurses would be foolish to cut OT. I know I would stop picking up extra hours without OT compensation.

    As for there being winners and losers, I think everyone would be losers. The hospitals, the staff and the patients.
  11. Visit  fergus51 profile page
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    And people wonder why I prefer union jobs
  12. Visit  gypsyatheart profile page
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    Yeah, baby, you said it all right here! You echo what the majority of us think!



    Quote from walterrn
    The day I dont get paid my overtime is the day I'll be doing something else for a living..................They think there's a nursing shortage now? Take away our right to earn extra monies and watch the nursing shortage explosion.

    Walter the Nurse
  13. Visit  ktwlpn profile page
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    Quote from flowerchild
    From MSN, the new OT bill was passed. RN's you loose, LPN's win.

    [.
    well---some of ya all have been claiming for years that LPN's are not real professional nurses...ya can't have it both ways.. I'll take my OT-thanks....

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