Goodbye OT: RN's LOOSERS, LPN's WINNERS - page 2

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From MSN, the new OT bill was passed. RN's you loose, LPN's win. Overhaul redefines overtime pay rules advertisement More lower-income workers are guaranteed overtime pay, but workers such as chefs, journalists... Read More


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    I Cannot Believe That They (the Employers) Will Withhold Overtime Pay Hospitals In This Area Could Not Stay Open Without Overtime Nurses===and What Nurse Would Work Without Pay Two Year Degree People Might Be Exempt But That Doesnot Mean They Cannot Say "no" When Asked
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    Unless we are going to be compelled to do mandatory overtime (a whole other nasty mess I'm sure already discussed here ad naseum) I think this will mean no one will work overtime shifts.

    Where I work the management already has to agree to pay time-and-a-half from the time you hit the door (instead of waiting until 40 hours reached) PLUS bonuses from $50-100 per shift. It shouldn't change much for me as I rarely work more than 36hrs/week no matter how hard they beg or how huge that bonus gets.

    Oh, they did try taking away the extra bonuses a couple of months ago, that didn't go over well at all, they couldn't get anyone to come in. If we stick together we will get our overtime or a bonus equivilant to it.
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    Overtime is taxed so badly here in Illinois that it's seldom worth it to work lots of OT. When I did I was usually disappointed in the actual amount of take home pay.

    Having said that, I wonder if this is going to open the door to managers requiring mandatory OT and getting rid of the expensive agency / traveler nurses. It's a lot cheaper to mandate a nurse stay late instead of bringing in an agency nurse who might be making twice the salary.

    I see lots of nurses fleeing if the worst-case scenarios pan out.

    One more reason to get rid of the Shrub.
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    "Registered nurses who are paid on an hourly basis should receive overtime pay. However, registered nurses who are registered by the appropriate State examining board generally meet the duties requirements for the learned professional exemption, and if paid on a salary basis of at least $455 per week, may be classified as exempt."

    Seems to me this says that RNs paid hourly, although meeting the professional requirements, will still be eligible for OT.

    Wonder how long it will take for hospitals to start offering salaries instead of hourly wages for RNs...

    Glad I'm in a union.
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    Hourly RN's will still need to be paid OT...at least that's the way I understand it. Administrative high dollar and salaried RN's will not qualify for automatic OT. I feel most hospitals will pay it anyway to staff, and administrators will (in my parts anyway) bargain for 'bonus' $$. My facility depends on a few die hards to work OT every week just to staff safely. They're not likely to utilize this IMO.

    I feel this law was amended primarily to reduce OT lawsuits.
    Last edit by mattsmom81 on Apr 22, '04
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    The day I dont get paid my overtime is the day I'll be doing something else for a living..................They think there's a nursing shortage now? Take away our right to earn extra monies and watch the nursing shortage explosion.

    Walter the Nurse
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    Glad where I work we have a union and overtime is written in the contract. I'd be willing to hedge my bets that if management tried to take it out that that would be a issue we would go out on strike over.
    Rj
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    I have read several different articles and have read several different interpertations of how this will affect RNs. When I specifically read the regulations it appears that things will stay the way they are now. If you get overtime now for hours over 40 you will continue to get overtime under new regs. Managment will continue to be salaried. The situations is confusing because some people do not know that the regs. have been updated in last few days and are still quoting from the first proposed changes.
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    Quote from walterrn
    The day I dont get paid my overtime is the day I'll be doing something else for a living..................They think there's a nursing shortage now? Take away our right to earn extra monies and watch the nursing shortage explosion.

    Walter the Nurse

    Exactly. Right now my employer is paying time and a half plus $15.00. I don't mind if they drop the $15.00, but don't mess with my time and a half. Honestly, if they are willing to pay agency nurses, contract nurses and travelers, and us the extra $15.00 I don't see them taking it away right now.

    Also, I'm quite a bit far away from $100,000.

    I'm not worried................yet.
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    Quote from mattsmom81
    Hourly RN's will still need to be paid OT...at least that's the way I understand it. Administrative high dollar and salaried RN's will not qualify for automatic OT. I feel most hospitals will pay it anyway to staff, and administrators will (in my parts anyway) bargain for 'bonus' $$. My facility depends on a few die hards to work OT every week just to staff safely. They're not likely to utilize this IMO.

    I feel this law was amended primarily to reduce OT lawsuits.

    My spouse is an administrator. When he work another day and it's more than this 40 hours, he doesn't get time and a half. None of the administrators do. :angryfire

    Now they have a law to back them up. humph... :angryfire


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