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No. 10
from rph3664
Old Sep 19, 2009, 09:11 AM

Default Re: Flash Fire Kills Patient on Operating Table
Originally Posted by S.Corder, RN View Post
In my second year of training--1964, I was doing a surgical rotation. Now, remember, those were much different days when class A oxygen tanks were used in every area and in every OR. Anyway, I was assisting with my first herniorraphy and then there was a great earthquake feeling and ceiling tiles and windows were breaking and falling. We found out later that across the courtyard from us another student nurse was assisting with a T&A on an adolescent. In her zeal to impress and do a good job she was said to be running around like crazy doing everything she was told. She inadvertently knocked over the class A oxygen tank that the patient was using. It exploded killing her, the patient and the doctor. It also blew out the whole side of the OR room. All I remember is a big hole in the side of the building that we all just stared at and could not believe. Other patients were hurt on the floors beneath the OR room, but no other fatalities. That is as close as I have ever come to anything like this story. This story stll terrifies me. I think of it everytime I see a class A tank.
Back in the days when ether and cyclopropane were used, things like this were not unusual.

Keep in mind that electric tools were rarely used in those days.



Edit: What is a class A oxygen tank? I get the impression that it is large.
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No. 11
from morte
Old Sep 19, 2009, 11:01 AM

Default Re: Flash Fire Kills Patient on Operating Table
Originally Posted by rph3664 View Post
Back in the days when ether and cyclopropane were used, things like this were not unusual.

Keep in mind that electric tools were rarely used in those days.



Edit: What is a class A oxygen tank? I get the impression that it is large.
tried to find a picture....i think perhaps they have gone out of use or relabled?
but i do remember BIG tanks guessing at 10-12 inches in diameter and 4+' high....
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No. 12
Old Sep 19, 2009, 11:51 AM

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In my 3-year research for a book coming out next month, I learned that operating room fires are reported twice a day, everyday in this country. Most are small and handled quickly. But it is also true that many are never reported.

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No. 13
from kythe
Old Sep 19, 2009, 07:07 PM

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Just for the sake of asking, since I haven't been trained in fire safety in the OR...

How do you put the fire out on the patient? You can't just spray the person with a fire extinguisher, especially when the fire is on an open surgical site. How common is infection related to this?
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No. 14
Old Sep 19, 2009, 10:38 PM

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Many of these fires are electrical and happen in a split-second. By far, most of them don't reach the point of combustion (such as those caused by a cauterizer) and there's time to stop that phase of the procedure. I will defer to the Forum O.R. nurses' thoughts on this, but I suspect the anesthesiologist would take the lead. They do get trained in fire prevention.

The best way to stop a fire quickly is to cover it. Crummy situation, huh?
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No. 15
from keller234
Old Sep 20, 2009, 09:45 AM

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I have many experience in the OR. There has been one flash fire in my OR many years ago. The patient was injured but not seriously. This is mostly caused by flammable prep liquids not being allowed to dry before the electrosurgical pencil (bovie) is used. With the emergence of different, better preps that contain alcohol, such as chloroprep and duraprep, it is especially important not to have these liquids pool and not be totally dry before using the bovie. Some surgeons also use alcohol as a final prep. We used to use primarily betadine, which was harmless, but also did not prevent infections as well as the alcohol preps.
This is a truly sad, tragic accident. It is important for OR staff to be trained to quickly put out the flames. We have annual training, I hope that is enough in an unexpected event!!
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No. 16
from keller234
Old Sep 20, 2009, 09:47 AM

Default Re: Flash Fire Kills Patient on Operating Table
It is also true that the oxygen content also contributes to the whole fire triad. Oxygen+spark+flammable material.
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No. 17
from bettyboop
Old Sep 20, 2009, 10:49 AM

Default Re: Flash Fire Kills Patient on Operating Table
I agree with Keller 254 the skin prep was the main concern when i wroked in the OR over zelous surgons splashing it on was fortunate enough never to experience a fire, excellent scrub nurses who mopped up the excess quickly, have nursed a couple of pts post op with burns to thighs from cautery equipment though
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No. 18
from Scrubby
Old Sep 20, 2009, 07:32 PM

Default Re: Flash Fire Kills Patient on Operating Table
Originally Posted by kythe View Post
Just for the sake of asking, since I haven't been trained in fire safety in the OR...

How do you put the fire out on the patient? You can't just spray the person with a fire extinguisher, especially when the fire is on an open surgical site. How common is infection related to this?
I was always told to smother the fire with drapes. If someone's is fire this needs to be deal with immediately even if it means contaminating the sterile field. You can always give them antibiotics.

I've heard of these sorts of fires occuring, especially during airway and laser surgery.
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No. 19
from shippoRN
Old Sep 21, 2009, 02:50 AM

Default Re: Flash Fire Kills Patient on Operating Table
Originally Posted by S.Corder, RN View Post
In my second year of training--1964, I was doing a surgical rotation. Now, remember, those were much different days when class A oxygen tanks were used in every area and in every OR. Anyway, I was assisting with my first herniorraphy and then there was a great earthquake feeling and ceiling tiles and windows were breaking and falling. We found out later that across the courtyard from us another student nurse was assisting with a T&A on an adolescent. In her zeal to impress and do a good job she was said to be running around like crazy doing everything she was told. She inadvertently knocked over the class A oxygen tank that the patient was using. It exploded killing her, the patient and the doctor. It also blew out the whole side of the OR room. All I remember is a big hole in the side of the building that we all just stared at and could not believe. Other patients were hurt on the floors beneath the OR room, but no other fatalities. That is as close as I have ever come to anything like this story. This story stll terrifies me. I think of it everytime I see a class A tank.

Holy crap!!!!!!
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