Fla. amputee gets rare second chance to sue docs

  1. 1 Fla. Amputee Gets Rare Second Chance to Sue Docs - ABC News

    DAVIE, Fla. (AP) -- When the sharp pain shooting through Lisa Strong's back got worse, she thought it was another kidney stone and expected the discomfort to pass. This time was different.

    Through a series of mistakes, miscommunications and misdiagnoses, she wound up having her arms and legs amputated. She sued the doctors, who essentially blamed one another for what everyone involved agrees were profound errors.

    Everyone except the jury that ruled against Strong.

    The verdict came in the face of such overwhelming evidence that in a rare move, the judge tossed out the jury's decision and ordered a new trial.

    Amazing story of fragmented care with no one taking responsibility. Bless this woman. I pray that she receives the compensation she deserves to make her life comfortable.
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  4. Visit  qt2168 profile page
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    Where is this article at I am intrested in reading about it!
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    Not my post, but I found a link:

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=7705430
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    OOPS! Sorry. I forgot to post a link. This may be the same story as PlaneFlyer found, as it is from the website of an ABC radio station:

    http://www.wlsam.com/news.asp?c=USHE...LATE%3DDEFAULT
    Last edit by Jolie on May 30, '09
  7. Visit  rjflyn profile page
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    Considering we/I have seen hundreds of kidney stones during my career in the ED it's a crap shoot. Generally the ones that get antibiotics are the pts that show an infection going on during when we do their UA. The article quotes this lady having a 106 degree temp, which is pretty high, and the times generally I have seen the pt is/has been dx as septic.

    Now there is no mention of the UA in the article so without it I cant comment with certainty , but if it were normal, and if the CT scan didn't show any stones I could see how a doc could get to another dx. But then again I can see how the ED doc who sounds like she was attempting to be the responsible one actually believed her pt and was trying to get the attending to the hospital.
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  8. Visit  Keysnurse2008 profile page
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    Oh my.....
    That's the thing about patients. You actually have to come look at them to get a full pic of what's going on.
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  9. Visit  jesskalpn profile page
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    I'm sure we don't have all the facts, but I'm really distressed at the description of how her care was supposedly handled.
    She was seen in the ER by Dr. Kocik who had to call and get treatment orders from a Dr. Strong who didn't even see the patient? Maybe I'm confused, but this Dr. Kocik can't write her own orders?

    Also....isn't "if you didn't chart it, you didn't do it" stressed ALL the time?

    Ugh....I hope this woman is compensated generously for what she's been put through, not that it will ever make up for her loss.
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  10. Visit  rjflyn profile page
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    Quote from booogalooobaby
    I'm sure we don't have all the facts, but I'm really distressed at the description of how her care was supposedly handled.
    She was seen in the ER by Dr. Kocik who had to call and get treatment orders from a Dr. Strong who didn't even see the patient? Maybe I'm confused, but this Dr. Kocik can't write her own orders?

    Also....isn't "if you didn't chart it, you didn't do it" stressed ALL the time?

    Ugh....I hope this woman is compensated generously for what she's been put through, not that it will ever make up for her loss.
    It's simple ER doctors cant admit pts to the hospital, if they cant get the pt's attending to come see a pt or take over care then they are pretty much left with letting them go home, transferring them somewhere else or finding another MD to admit.
  11. Visit  jesskalpn profile page
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    Ah, well clearly the ER is not my area....I have no idea how the admitting process from there works.

    Still, what a terrible situation and I'd venture to say 'someone' didn't do their job correctly.
    And that's all I have to say about that.
  12. Visit  lamazeteacher profile page
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    Quote from booogalooobaby
    I'm sure we don't have all the facts, but I'm really distressed at the description of how her care was supposedly handled.
    She was seen in the ER by Dr. Kocik who had to call and get treatment orders from a Dr. Strong who didn't even see the patient? Maybe I'm confused, but this Dr. Kocik can't write her own orders?

    Also....isn't "if you didn't chart it, you didn't do it" stressed ALL the time?

    Ugh....I hope this woman is compensated generously for what she's been put through, not that it will ever make up for her loss.
    One of those doctors was from the patient's insurance company that was probably contacted to see if they'd cover the test to find the kidney stone (?IVP). They all don't deserve to be allowed to practise medicine any longer - a month to diagnose an infection? I don't think so!! The Infection Control nurse at that hospital should have been on top of this case in a few days IF NURSES REPORTED SUCH SITUATIONS TO HIM/HER!!!!

    That's how insurance companies control medical care. We need them "deep six'd"!!!! I'm sure universal health care would have provided better care than this. No wonder Canadians who are winter-time Floridians, were rescued by Air Canada flight lifts when they became ill. It was too expensive, so now Canadians get special insurance policies for health care in the USA, before leaving Canada.....
  13. Visit  Vito Andolini profile page
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    Since when can ER docs not admit or write orders?

    Did Kocic actually tell the patient's private doc that he had to get in there to see Lisa? Did Dr. Strong agree to come in? Kocic sounds incompetent.

    I really don't get the part about taking a month to diagnose.

    The whole thing sounds really shoddy, sloppy. And, as usual, we don't get all of our questions answered, so cannot really know who was right and who was wrong or figure out where the error(s) were actually made. The article says the patient didn't delay going to the ER. But, as I read it, she did. Of course, once she was there, she did not get proper care anyway! And if it was thought to be acute cholecystitis, she should have been given IV abx, too. Right?

    The losers? Always the patients. Of course, her jerk of a husband walked out on her. What ever happened to "for better or for worse, in sickness and in health"? Pity the poor children.

    She should be getting a billion bucks, I think.
    Last edit by Vito Andolini on May 31, '09
  14. Visit  lamazeteacher profile page
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    Quote from vito andolini
    since when can er docs not admit or write orders?

    did kocic actually tell the patient's private doc that he had to get in there to see lisa? did dr. strong agree to come in? kocic sounds incompetent.

    that seems odd to me, too. however er docs these days are family physicians playing "hospitalist" at the hospital where i live... since she had a specialist, he/she'd yield to that one, i believe. especially since she was admitted.

    i really don't get the part about taking a month to diagnose.

    the whole thing sounds really shoddy, sloppy. and, as usual, we don't get all of our questions answered, so cannot really know who was right and who was wrong or figure out where the error(s) were actually made. the jury seemed to think that, too.......the article says the patient didn't delay going to the er. but, as i read it, she did. how did you see that? i read that with a temperature of 106 and hx of kidney stones, she did go right in, but was kept in a waiting room for almost an hour......of course, once she was there, she did not get proper care anyway! and if it was thought to be acute cholecystitis, she should have been given iv abx, too. right?

    i didn't see where it said they thought she had cholecystitis......she said she thought she was having another kidney stone.

    the losers? always the patients. of course, her jerk of a husband walked out on her. what ever happened to "for better or for worse, in sickness and in health"? pity the poor children.

    she should be getting a billion bucks, i think.
    i agree that she should be awarded plenty for losing all 4 extremities! my thinking about marriages, is that the good ones get better when a crisis occurs, and the bad ones fall apart.
  15. Visit  rjflyn profile page
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    Every ER I have ever worked in, in 22 years the ER doctors technically cant admit patients. Yes the can write some basic orders after they talk to an attending and then that doctor has generally 24 hours then to see the patient.

    I will admit as shoddy as some ED charting is it would not be a stretch to say she received poor care even if she didn't. I just left a facility that switched 2 years ago to an EMR. I can say the difference is night and day. And its shoddy paperwork more often that shoddy care thats going to kill you in court. Not that i condone either one.
    Last edit by rjflyn on May 31, '09


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