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No. 110
Old Jul 05, 2009, 03:56 PM

Default Re: FDA Panel Votes to Eliminate Vicodin and Percocet
Originally Posted by 300g View Post
Yesterday I broke my foot... *grumble grumble*... I have never taken Percocet before, but THANK G*d (or the ER doc) for prescribing it for me. And, THANKFULLY it is available for prescription.

SIMPLY STATED AGAIN... eliminating Vicodin and Percocet WILL NOT solve Tylenol related problems. Why is that so hard to understand? Maybe the FDA Panel has not reached Piaget's Formal Operations stage...
Oh, wow I'm sorry you broke your foot. That, well, that sucks, and I wish you the best in your healing.

Eliminating percocet and vicodin will definitely eliminate tylenol related problems associated with, well, percocet and vicodin. Simply stated--people take their pain medication (ie, oxycodone or hydrocodone) separately from their Tylenol.

If you want to take them together, you can crush up the oxycodone and the tylenol and make a mush. Then put it in a pill shaped mold and let it dry. Voila--you have percocet.

Again, I'm wicked sorry about your foot, and I'm glad the medication you are taking is making you more comfortable.
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No. 111
Old Jul 05, 2009, 04:37 PM
Updated Jul 05, 2009 at 04:38 PM by lamazeteacher

Default Re: FDA Panel Votes to Eliminate Vicodin and Percocet
This is possibly an exaggerated reaction to those well meaning TV ads showing teenagers collecting analgesics of family members. I was amazed that anyone seeking an illicit use of others' medications, would bother to remember what the meds had been ordered for. That's why - much earlier on, terms like "reds", "yellows", and then descriptive terms regarding their effects were used by thrill seekers.

When an individual really wants to commit suicide, they'll do that using whatever means is at hand. Overdoses that are accidental usually occur when elderly or neurologically/psychologically impaired folks forget that they've already taken their pain med (uaually at bedtime, when they want to sleep undisturbed by pain).

It's helpful to dispense analgesics in "bubblepaks" that allow notes regarding the time it was taken, to be written (for home use). Then if groggy patients think they didn't take the analgesic, yet have already, they can see the note they made.

Controlling administrators of the FDA who want their own hides saved, don't give a darn about the comfort of patients in pain!
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No. 112
from Sydangle2
Old Jul 05, 2009, 04:45 PM
Updated Jul 05, 2009 at 07:38 PM by sirI

Question What do you think about this??Should Vicodin, Percocet be banned?
I bumped into this article about putting restrictions on Tylenol -fine then it said
FDA is considering banning these drug containing tylenol???
or at very least putting restrictions on
Tylenol ..............due to all the unintential overdoses.
This came from medicine net.

What do you think About this???

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Vicodin and Percocet to Be Pulled Off the Market?


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No. 113
Old Jul 05, 2009, 05:53 PM

Pill Bottle Re: What do you think about this??Should Vicodin, Percocet be banned?
I have heard about this on the news and I just dont see how they could ban these drugs. They are popular because they work better than just a narc alone. Most of the overdoses are intentional and there is really no way to stop this. I think that dr.s and nurses should pay more attention to the amount of acetaminophen that a pt. is getting and to teach the pt. the same thing.
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No. 114
from Penguin67
Old Jul 05, 2009, 06:24 PM

Default Re: What do you think about this??Should Vicodin, Percocet be banned?
If they ban acetaminophen, watch for other things to be banned as well. I hope that it doesn't happen. Most anything that you ingest can be lethal in large doses. You can even OD from too much water. Should be ban all water?
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No. 115
from StatBlues
Old Jul 05, 2009, 06:34 PM

Default Re: What do you think about this??Should Vicodin, Percocet be banned?
Should Vicodin, Percocet be banned?

In a word....NO !!!

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No. 116
from ktwlpn
Old Jul 05, 2009, 07:02 PM

Default Re: What do you think about this??Should Vicodin, Percocet be banned?
STUPIDITY should be banned.....not these drugs
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No. 117
Old Jul 05, 2009, 07:05 PM

Default Re: FDA Panel Votes to Eliminate Vicodin and Percocet
Originally Posted by lamazeteacher View Post
This is possibly an exaggerated reaction to those well meaning TV ads showing teenagers collecting analgesics of family members. I was amazed that anyone seeking an illicit use of others' medications, would bother to remember what the meds had been ordered for. That's why - much earlier on, terms like "reds", "yellows", and then descriptive terms regarding their effects were used by thrill seekers.

When an individual really wants to commit suicide, they'll do that using whatever means is at hand. Overdoses that are accidental usually occur when elderly or neurologically/psychologically impaired folks forget that they've already taken their pain med (uaually at bedtime, when they want to sleep undisturbed by pain).

It's helpful to dispense analgesics in "bubblepaks" that allow notes regarding the time it was taken, to be written (for home use). Then if groggy patients think they didn't take the analgesic, yet have already, they can see the note they made.

Controlling administrators of the FDA who want their own hides saved, don't give a darn about the comfort of patients in pain!
Whether or not the FDA panel cares about the comfort of patients, eliminating brand name drugs won't have any impact on pain management.
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No. 118
Old Jul 05, 2009, 07:16 PM

Default Re: FDA Panel Votes to Eliminate Vicodin and Percocet
Before Percocet there was Percodan which was oxycodone mixed with Aspirin. Since aspirin was a known stomach irritant, it fell out of favor and is now usually mixed with acetaminophen. Ultram doesn't work too well on its own but add some apap and you get ultracet which works great. It's not the acetaminophen that causes the problem. It's the consumer who won't read or won't follow instructions.
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No. 119
from roser13
Old Jul 05, 2009, 07:17 PM

Default Re: What do you think about this??Should Vicodin, Percocet be banned?
Here's my take:

As a private RN for an orthopedic surgeon, I pretty much had free rein with what I called in for our patients. When calling in a new script or a renewal, I always made the assumption that the patient would or could take more than the recommended dosage. And I would account for that in my dosing instructions. My concern was never about the hydrocodone component of the script...it was always about the acetominophen content. Patient education focused heavily on the acetominophen count for the day.

For what it's worth, I eventually found that my assumptions were usually right on....a patient in pain is always tempted to take MORE.

Norco was a godsend to me...same amount of hydrocodone, lesser amounts of acetominophen. But still, this is a tremendous issue.

While I don't wish for the removal of these combination drugs from the market, I do wish for a greater understanding (particularly among physicians) of the potential for liver damage from acetominophen, previously thought to be inconsequential.
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