Was famed nurse Nightingale bipolar? - page 3

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This article is from: May. 02, 2003 but still thought it was worthy of posting for discussion: Florence Nightingale, the founder of modern nursing who said God called her to her work, "heard voices" and suffered from a... Read More


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    Quote from wmarat
    Why, when I talk to G-d it's called a pray and when G-d talks to me it's called schizophrenia?
    In our Western "intellectual" mindset, we pride ourselves on our rationality and tend to leave out the spiritual aspect. If we cannot define something with our five senses, then the occurrence must not be real. Unfortunately for the Western paradigm, the spiritual world, both good and bad, surrounds us, and it is very real. Much more real than this temporal physical experience.
    Therefore, to the Western intellectual, contact with the spiritual world is considered "abnormal," even a form of mental illness. To the Eastern mindset, the spiritual part of the human experience is very real and normal.
    The human being is actually a tripartite being--we are an eternal spirit which is housed in a temporal body and we have a soul (which is our mind, will, and emotions). If we ignore the human spirit, we are leaving out the most important part--and we are only addressing 66.67% of who we are (on any examination, 66.67% is FLUNKING. ).
    So sad, in our Western quest for rationality and logic, we don't even know who we really are.
    Last edit by VickyRN on Apr 16, '04
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    You say that like its a bad thing....bipolar is a disorder, and many gifted people have been afflicted with it. Many of us have disorders, diseases, flaws and dysfunctions. I dont think it is name calling, just an article someone found who thought it was interesting to post it. I have a close relative who has bipolar, she is very intelligent and gifted in many ways. The bipolar has its times when it is awful and unpleasant but with the right meds and psychotherapy she is well adapted.




    Quote from teeituptom
    Cant we accept her for who and what she represents without tranishing her image.

    Enough name calling and mud slinging as is.

    Lets not add to it
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    Hi everyone in allnurses.com.This is my first post here.
    I wonder how many of us,if put under the microscope would come out "sane"?
    Florence must certainly have suffered from some form of traumatic syndrome but the point is she learned from her experiences and built on them,bringing nursing respectability and profesionalism.How many other people have gone through great life changing episodes in their lives and made a difference? Are they all going to by examined mentally or are we going to thank God for their farsightedness?

    (gets down off soap box and wanders back in her corner mumbling to herself)!
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    Quote from nightmare
    Hi everyone in allnurses.com.This is my first post here.
    I wonder how many of us,if put under the microscope would come out "sane"?
    Florence must certainly have suffered from some form of traumatic syndrome but the point is she learned from her experiences and built on them,bringing nursing respectability and profesionalism.How many other people have gone through great life changing episodes in their lives and made a difference? Are they all going to by examined mentally or are we going to thank God for their farsightedness?

    (gets down off soap box and wanders back in her corner mumbling to herself)!

    Im sure someone could say Im severely Obsessive Compulsive about Golf
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    Quote from SmilingBluEyes
    Well, being bipolar is NOT a crime or a character defect, you know. Many bipolar folks are brilliant, high-functioning and wonderful people. Sheesh what ignorance we still hold about mental health these days. It really upsets me this is even a concern at this point. I would like to leave the woman and her memory alone. One thing to consider: In another time and another culture (certain native American ones) schizophrenics and folks who would have been classified bipolar were believed to be seers of considerable wisdom. Maybe, just maybe, they were right.

    Thank you BluEyes you brought up a very good point and that is that being BiPolar is not necessarily a disability but only made her who she was... (IMHO)

    I feel that is also true for the Savant (autistics) who are brilliant people and other individuals that society may sometimes incorrectly label as disabled but in reality they are truly very talented and bright individuals...
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    Quote from stevielynn
    I think the letters posted in the article sound like many teens and women, even nowadays. When I was a teenager I constantly wondered about the meaning of life and wrote in my journal and if you looked at it now could probably diagnose all kinds of mental illnesses. :chuckle

    The fact that she had periods of depression, well, welcome to the real world.

    Not discounting those who truly are bipolar but looking back in time and trying to diagnose from personal writings seems a bit far-fetched to me.

    steph
    Hi, Stevielynn -

    Maybe I am just tired, but I cannot for the life of me figure out what is in the picture below your screenname!!! Help, please???
    Thanks!
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    A Md Giving A Presentation To A Group Of Our Nursing Class Stated That When A Patient Tells Him That God Talks To Him He Would First Determine What Faith The Pt Has A Catholic Or Episcopalian Would Be "have To Be Crazy" To Hear God Talk While A Pentecostal Or Charismatic Would Find It To Be A Normal Part Of Thier Religious Life So Don't Determine Dx On A Single Aspect Which Can T Be Detgermined To Be Factual
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    I don't know about u but, I would love for God to talk to me. As far as mental illness, I think it is like any other disease/disorder however, when our "minds" are being affected who knows what is going on and why the neurotransmitters are unbalanced.....Maybe it is something like another "dimension" that we don't understand or something more is trying to happen in a way that society could not possibly understand. I think everyone has some kind of disorder, I find nothing "abnormal" about someone having something like bipolar or schizophrenia, I think it is alot "deeper" then we all know. I don't ever discredit for mental illness....We are ALL EQUAL. :angel2:
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    If you want to amuse yourself, pick up a copy of the APA's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual 4 .

    Because mental health is a continuum, not unlike physical health, anyone can end up with an axis I, II, III, and IV diagnosis. It is because we are all individuals and fall at all sorts of places along that continuum.

    Bipolar? Who knows? "Cyclothymic personality?" Maybe. All of us have a personality type.

    I think Sigmund described mental health best when he defined it as the "ability to love and the ability to work."

    And much of this goes to show what I've always maintained: If medicine was at the same stage of psychiatry, we would still be bleeding patients with lancets, cauterizing wounds with boiling pitch, and administering ether via the open-drop cone for anesthesia. But since this society views deviation from "normalcy" as a moral failing, it surprises me that psychiatry has come even this far.

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    Quote from nightmoves
    If you want to amuse yourself, pick up a copy of the APA's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual 4 .

    Because mental health is a continuum, not unlike physical health, anyone can end up with an axis I, II, III, and IV diagnosis. It is because we are all individuals and fall at all sorts of places along that continuum.

    Bipolar? Who knows? "Cyclothymic personality?" Maybe. All of us have a personality type.

    I think Sigmund described mental health best when he defined it as the "ability to love and the ability to work."

    And much of this goes to show what I've always maintained: If medicine was at the same stage of psychiatry, we would still be bleeding patients with lancets, cauterizing wounds with boiling pitch, and administering ether via the open-drop cone for anesthesia. But since this society views deviation from "normalcy" as a moral failing, it surprises me that psychiatry has come even this far.

    nicely stated for the record


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