Entire Psych Unit Fired

  1. 3 I just wanted to share this article about a hospital in Boston which let go of an entire Psych unit following 4 complaints:

    http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/heal...?p1=News_links

    This hospital was just merged and there has been a lot of commercials involving this new company. They have also been written about several times about potential other mergers that haven't happened and on the background of the new CEO .... seems to me this is a bit of a PR stunt at the cost of the nurses and mental health workers who were not involved in any wrong doing.

    Just wanted to share this.
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    From 'Allston, MA'; Joined Apr '11; Posts: 74; Likes: 6.

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  4. Visit  evolvingrn} profile page
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    It sounds like there was some widespread problems, while i think it would have been much better to reassign those not involved in the abuse, sometimes clearing a dysfunctional unit is a good thing.
    lindarn and Not_A_Hat_Person like this.
  5. Visit  canesdukegirl} profile page
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    Wow. Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater. It is difficult for me to believe that EVERY staff member on this unit was involved in these serious allegations.

    I wonder what the recourse will be for these nurses?
    MTRN13, wooh, herring_RN, and 1 other like this.
  6. Visit  Not_A_Hat_Person} profile page
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    I can believe it. When I lived in Dorchester, Carney was the Hospital of Last Resort.
    lindarn likes this.
  7. Visit  Ruthfarmer} profile page
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    Quote from kiki617
    I just wanted to share this article about a hospital in Boston which let go of an entire Psych unit following 4 complaints:

    http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/heal...?p1=News_links

    This hospital was just merged and there has been a lot of commercials involving this new company. They have also been written about several times about potential other mergers that haven't happened and on the background of the new CEO .... seems to me this is a bit of a PR stunt at the cost of the nurses and mental health workers who were not involved in any wrong doing.

    Just wanted to share this.

    Not my read on it at all. The unit was investigated by state officials and allegations of assault and neglect were substantiated. Heads should roll and fortunately in this case management heads rolled as well. Perhaps there were nurses or other staff who didn't assault or neglect patients. Did they speak up and file complaints or attempt to protect the patients? If not, they should be fired.
    bellcollector, itk1, herring_RN, and 3 others like this.
  8. Visit  canesdukegirl} profile page
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    I just have to say that a mental facility with the name "Carney" was probably not the best way to start out strong...
  9. Visit  AJPV} profile page
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    I'm sorry I have to say this, but at this point i feel like I will never want to accept a job in psych nursing. I don't know anyone who says the psych facility they work in is characterized by a positive attitude among administrators & employees, or that they are well-supported by admin. This is based on my own experiences and numerous friends. It's sad to me that psych nursing has brought this reputation upon itself, and that it is primarily nurses in staff as well as admin positions who can take credit for this.
    Skeletor and Not_A_Hat_Person like this.
  10. Visit  Moogie} profile page
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    Moving this to Nursing News to increase visibility.
    sharpeimom and herring_RN like this.
  11. Visit  herring_RN} profile page
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    Quote from Ruthfarmer
    Not my read on it at all. The unit was investigated by state officials and allegations of assault and neglect were substantiated. Heads should roll and fortunately in this case management heads rolled as well. Perhaps there were nurses or other staff who didn't assault or neglect patients. Did they speak up and file complaints or attempt to protect the patients? If not, they should be fired.
    Yes.
    Failure to supervise the patients was likely staffing related.
    Not speaking up is unethical. The staff may have been afraid to report for fear of losing their jobs.
    Ironic.
    sharpeimom and NRSKarenRN like this.
  12. Visit  nerdtonurse?} profile page
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    Do the math. It states they fired 13 nurses and 16 counselors... so, for a 168 hour week, 13 x 40 is 520 nurse hours, which is max 3 nurses on any shift, max 3.8 counselors for any particular hour, if it's proportional across all 24 hours. So you're talking 6 people, roughly, for a 14 bed unit. If, instead, the counselors work a 9 to 5, at night there's only 2 or 3 nurses for 14 troubled kids. As far as I'm able to tell , 1:5 or 1:7 is a high number. This paper from the UK http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/files/pdfversion/cr76.pdf advocates for a 1:2 ratio.

    If these people were assaulting kids, throw them under the jail. But I think there's also a problem with putting people in a situation where there's not people working (and watching) to keep things safe. You've got psych patients, they can be okay or they can see sexual assault in someone handing them a salt shaker -- you'd want to approach them with two people in the room at all times. If there's only 2 folks working at night, then how could you both be in one room and be able to keep an eye on the other 13?
    not.done.yet, hope3456, MissPiggy, and 8 others like this.
  13. Visit  DeeDeeMan} profile page
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    Wow that is crazy...get it CRAZY..jk but it is hard to believe that the whole unit was involved. Interesting to think that it might be a publicity stunt. Very interesting article thanks for sharing!
    martinalpn and jmiraRN like this.
  14. Visit  Liddle Noodnik} profile page
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    Quote from kiki617
    I just wanted to share this article about a hospital in Boston which let go of an entire Psych unit following 4 complaints:

    http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/heal...?p1=News_links

    This hospital was just merged and there has been a lot of commercials involving this new company. They have also been written about several times about potential other mergers that haven't happened and on the background of the new CEO .... seems to me this is a bit of a PR stunt at the cost of the nurses and mental health workers who were not involved in any wrong doing.

    Just wanted to share this.
    I would think that any publicity would be NEGATIVE that involved EITHER company.
    martinalpn likes this.
  15. Visit  newnursejoan} profile page
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    I just graduated from a BSCN in canada and spent my consolidation in a psych hospital. To be honest, the whole reason I went to nursing school was to become a psych nurse. Thats awful what happened to say the least. I can't believe that nurses can be let go like that, but I guess with any kind of negligence, the risk for termination is a reality.


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