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Jan 15, 2009 08:29 PM

Effort Seeks to Broaden Pill License ; Psychologists Would Receive Prescription-Writi


from Columbia Daily Tribune ..

By JANESE HEAVIN

Renee Stucky at Rusk Rehabilitation Center sees patients with chronic health issues and sometimes urgent mental health-care needs, but when they need prescription medication, she has to send them elsewhere.

As a psychologist, Stucky is not allowed to prescribe medication for mental disorders even if she knows a prescription would be just what the doctor would order.

"I have many tools to help them, but I can't prescribe medication," she said. "Sometimes medication is an important part of treatment."

Stucky is among a group asking Missouri lawmakers to pass a bill this year that would allow trained psychologists to prescribe medications for mental disorders. She joined a coalition of health- care professionals who gathered yesterday at the Capitol to promote that proposal.

Under existing law, a patient who sees a psychologist must also see a physician or psychiatrist to get a medication prescription.

The bill, expected to be filed today, would require psychologists to earn a post-doctoral master's degree in clinical psychopharmacology and to complete a year of physician-supervised clinical training before they would be allowed to prescribe medications.

A change in law would help respond to a growing number of mental health-care needs in a state where services aren't always available, said Tom Parquette, director of Missouri Families for Access to Comprehensive Treatment, the group pitching the plan. Needs are especially pressing in rural areas where there aren't any practicing psychiatrists, he said.

Donna McArthur said yesterday during a news conference that she has to travel from her home in Branson to a psychiatrist in Springfield to get prescribed medication for depression.

That is not only costly, McArthur said, but also frustrating because she does not know the prescribing physician as well as she knows her hometown psychologist, whom she sees regularly.

The problem isn't just in rural Missouri, though. Stucky said she thinks giving psychologists the opportunity to prescribe pills also could be one solution to Columbia's dwindling mental health services.

Medication won't offset the closure of a Boone Hospital Center mental health wing or the elimination of 14 beds at the Mid- Missouri Mental Health Center, she said, but it could give locals more immediate access to help.

While Columbia has "wonderful health-care providers," Stucky said, they're not always comfortable diagnosing and prescribing medication for mental health disorders. Meanwhile, she said, local psychiatrists are booked.

"I have patients waiting at least four weeks to get in," Stucky said. "If they're in crisis, I'm not exactly sure what to do."

Similar legislative proposals in the past have faced opposition from those who question whether psychologists have the appropriate level of training to prescribe medications and from psychiatric groups fearing competition.

Bill sponsor Sen. Jack Goodman, R-Mount Vernon, acknowledged opposition exists but said he's not interested in a "turf war."

Goodman said the bill is a response "to the outcry of requests for help I've heard from the 29th District and from other districts that lack psychiatric services."

Reach Janese Heavin at (573) 815-1705 or jheavin@columbiatribune.com.

Originally published by JANESE HEAVIN of the Tribune's staff.

(c) 2009 Columbia Daily Tribune. Provided by ProQuest LLC. All rights Reserved.

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Old Jan 15, 2009, 10:25 PM

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Sounds very reasonable.
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Old Jan 16, 2009, 09:08 AM

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While it sounds good in theory I wonder how this will affect a patients ability to relate and be honest in their disclosure with their psychologist if they knew the therapist could and would be changing their prescription.
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Old Jan 16, 2009, 11:25 AM
Updated Jan 16, 2009 at 11:40 AM by feralnostalgia

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Originally Posted by tothepointe View Post
While it sounds good in theory I wonder how this will affect a patients ability to relate and be honest in their disclosure with their psychologist if they knew the therapist could and would be changing their prescription.
I'm more concerned that it will change the psychologist's focus. I have a facial tick acquired from an SSRI that I don't think was essential to my treatment for depression. at 15 I was never told there were permanent side-effects, or that forgetting to take my medicine could cause worse problems than the depression did to begin with. my younger brother lost a lot of his childhood experience to ritalin and similar ADD drugs...he went from not being able to pay attention in school (a school building with no walls! "open classroom" is such a joke) to having such intense focus he would sit in his closet with a gameboy for 8 hours at a time. another friend I have has been on literally dozens of different drugs of this type, since she was a small child, and it's hard to tell how much of her problems are drug related and how much are part of the original mental illness, if she was really mentally ill to begin with.

do psychotherapists really need any more encouragement to rely on drugs? they're part of the quick-fix mentality so prevalent in this country, but a huge proportion of those of us on these medications don't see improvement. it amazes me that people think there's something wrong or unnatural about being depressed when they work in a cubicle, isolated from family, and treat most of their needs with consumer objects. people need to change their lifestyles too, not their biochemistry! even commercials for more pills acknowledge the old ones don't work a lot of the time. aren't these already seriously over prescribed? journaling, talk therapy, and time did far more for me than any drug did, and left me with fewer scars. I don't think further encouragement to medicate away complex psychological issues is what we need. they started out limiting access to these medications for a reason.

many psychological illnesses are not biochemically caused. anorexia and bulemia are directly associated with exposure to advertising. (they are nearly non-existent in cuba, for example, where american ads are illegal - in puerto rico, however, they are as high as in the US). Emile Durkheim proved over a century ago that suicide rates soared with cultural shifts away from close contact with extended family and towards sedentary, city work. the answer isn't always to change the person...psychologists should be focusing more on helping people adjust and live healthy lives, not on medicating them until they can seem outwardly content in an unhealthy culture.
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Old Jan 16, 2009, 03:01 PM

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I have two issues with this.
The first being that I don't feel even with a PHD in psychopharmacology they are qualified to prescribe for one reason. Not being physican's they are not qualified to assess/recognize other physical problems the patient may have, and medications taken for these problems, and they will not know how those conditions and medications will be affected by medications prescribed for psyche reasons.

The second reason is because there is a pop a pill mentality in our society, I am afraid that they will lean more and more to quick fix RX and less and less on the therapy they are trained in and needed for.
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from Cindy-san
Old Jan 16, 2009, 05:33 PM

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Renee Stucky at Rusk Rehabilitation Center sees patients with chronic health issues and sometimes urgent mental health-care needs, but when they need prescription medication, she has to send them elsewhere.

As a psychologist, Stucky is not allowed to prescribe medication for mental disorders even if she knows a prescription would be just what the doctor would order.

"I have many tools to help them, but I can't prescribe medication," she said. "Sometimes medication is an important part of treatment."
Of course meds can be important. But they can also be very dangerous, which is why people prescribing get loads of training in various medications and assessment.

Rather than focus on getting yourself prescription powers, try working with the pt's doc or making connections to one you can refer to.
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Old Jan 17, 2009, 03:20 AM

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Glad to see a discussion on this. Sort of thought my initial post would spark a little dialog.

Actually, as a previous Clinical Counselor....I do have mixed feelings regarding the whole matter.

Excellent points made thus far, folks.
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from Jo Dirt
Old Jan 17, 2009, 11:29 PM

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The psychologists realize they are in a dying profession and are trying to stay afloat. Mind-altering medications should never be taken lightly. It's dangerous enough when medical doctors/psychiatrists are overseeing the management of psych meds.

This is reminding me of an alternative medicine practitioner who starts selling herbal supplements and vitamins to try to make themselves more marketable, only this is a lot more dangerous.

I don't like this idea at all.
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from al dente
Old Jan 18, 2009, 02:16 AM

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Far from being a dying profession, clinical psychology is growing and psychologists are obtaining prescriptive authority to manage ALL the mental health needs of their patients. Psychologists are seeking prescriptive authority because of the acute shortage of qualified mental health prescribers and the increasing difficulty of finding a psychiatrist (or psych NP) who is able and willing to take the referral.

Clinical psychologists have been prescribing in the military for over a decade and since 2004 in New Mexico and Louisiana. These psychologists have written thousands of scripts with zero "0" documented cases of any untoward effects. On the contrary, the GAO (Government Accounting Office) conducted an independent evaluation of psychologist prescribing in the military and concluded that the prescribing psychologists "fulfilled a critical need and performed with excellence wherever they served." Hence, the "patient health hazard" argument espoused by medicine and others opposed to psychologist prescribing is not valid. (BTW, this was the same argument made against NP practice by organized medicine.)

I should know, I am both a clinical psychologist and a psychiatric NP. I chose to return to school to train as a psych NP largely because of the difficulty of getting any of my patients into a prescriber. I value my training as a nurse and as a NP. NPs clearly bring their own "flavor" of patient care into the healthcare arena, and they public is better off because of it. Psychologist prescribing will provide another needed opportunity for patients to obtain the services they need. However, even with prescribing psychologists, psychiatrists, and psych NPs, there will still not be enough providers to meet the demand.
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from Jo Dirt
Old Jan 18, 2009, 06:03 PM

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Ok, well, this settles it. I'm all for it now.
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