Dentists, EMTs, Pharmacists, oh, my! - non-nurses giving shots

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    http://www.boston.com/news/health/ar..._campaign=8315

    While the article touts that they are going to "deputize" dentists, EMTs, and pharmacists into giving "the flu vaccine" the one thing they don't point out is that there's still not a vaccine for swine flu because it's mutating too fast; current strains are showing increasing resistance to tamiflu and antivirals.

    What will be interesting to watch is if the big pharmacies will allow their employees to give the shots -- it's one thing if it's nurses from the health department or private contractors -- but using their employees opens their corporations up to liability. Can't you see the ads now? "Did you get the flu shot from an untrained pharmacist and suffer a reaction. Call us at 1-800-SUE-4SHOTS and get money for your pain and suffering NOW."
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    I as a new grad and just passing and receiving my RN have been having a tough time finding a job, like so many of us out there. I have signed up to do agency work during the flu season to staff flu clinics. Not permanent but good to get my feet wet into something.
    Today I went to pick up some meds at Walgreens to get over the summer flu. I asked the pharmacist if they were hiring RN's for there future flu clinics and she stated "oh no I will be taking a class and will be giving the flu shots out myself.' I have the utmost respect for pharmacist's and understand how much school they go through for there degree but do I really want a non skilled pharmacist or pharmacy tech with no experience giving me a shot?
    What do you think?
    Am I being ignorant? Maybe?
    Tell me what you think good or bad :wink2:
    Have a great week!
    Tricia
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    someone drives my mother up to the local grocery store and the pharmacist comes out in the parking lot; gives her the shot and its all done... to me anyone can give an injection with the proper training...i would be more worried about the medication that was being injected and since it's a pharmacist...im ok with it
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    Quote from nurse2009

    I as a new grad and just passing and receiving my RN have been having a tough time finding a job, like so many of us out there. I have signed up to do agency work during the flu season to staff flu clinics. Not permanent but good to get my feet wet into something.
    Today I went to pick up some meds at Walgreens to get over the summer flu. I asked the pharmacist if they were hiring RN's for there future flu clinics and she stated "oh no I will be taking a class and will be giving the flu shots out myself.' I have the utmost respect for pharmacist's and understand how much school they go through for there degree but do I really want a non skilled pharmacist or pharmacy tech with no experience giving me a shot?
    What do you think?
    Am I being ignorant? Maybe?
    Tell me what you think good or bad :wink2:
    Have a great week!
    Tricia
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    I think arrogant is a better term.
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    I don't think I'm arrogant at all, but I can see you could be thinking that without really knowing me. My personal opinion is that someone else who has spent time practicing on real patients such as a medical assistant, LPN or RN should give shots. As much as pharmacists get paid which they should make that because they have been well educated themselves should be doing the pharmacist job and as for a pharmacy tech or med tech I can tell you right now they are not educated enough to give shots even if they take a certification class.
    THANKS FOR YOUR OPINION:typing
    :heartbeatTRICIA:heartbeat
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    I don't think they should be giving shots... if that's the case can't CNA's ???? Hell I already draw blood.. why not?
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    Quote from nurse2009
    I don't think I'm arrogant at all, but I can see you could be thinking that without really knowing me. My personal opinion is that someone else who has spent time practicing on real patients such as a medical assistant, LPN or RN should give shots. As much as pharmacists get paid which they should make that because they have been well educated themselves should be doing the pharmacist job and as for a pharmacy tech or med tech I can tell you right now they are not educated enough to give shots even if they take a certification class.
    THANKS FOR YOUR OPINION:typing
    :heartbeatTRICIA:heartbeat
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    In your opinion, how much education should one possess in order to administer a flu shot?
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    More than a certification class that practices on dummies...I know Medical assistance, LPN/LVN and RN's practices these skills not only in a type of nursing lab but also in a clinical setting were they are giving shots to real patients while they are in school.
    PageRespitory are you or during school taught to give shots as a respitory therapist? Is there any type of certification that you can get that allows you to give shots? I hope that question does not offend you I"m just curious.
    I guess one of the things that bothers me the most about this is not so much the pharmacist giving shots but I remember in the college I went to for my pre req for nursing that RN, LPN's, and Respitory therapists had to take way more anatomy and physiology classes than the pharmacist major's had to. Dont get me wrong Im not knockings the pharmacist. I know they have an intense education training behind them. There is no one better to talk to when you need information on a med that you can not find any where else and they most of the time are very helpful. But wouldn't it be cheaper for the pharmacy's to hire a lower educated person to do the job of giving out the flu shots such as a LPN/LVN or medical assistant?
    FOOD FOR THOGHT:typing
    :heartbeatTRICIA:heartbeat
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    Quote from nurse2009
    More than a certification class that practices on dummies...I know Medical assistance, LPN/LVN and RN's practices these skills not only in a type of nursing lab but also in a clinical setting were they are giving shots to real patients while they are in school.
    PageRespitory are you or during school taught to give shots as a respitory therapist? Is there any type of certification that you can get that allows you to give shots? I hope that question does not offend you I"m just curious.
    I guess one of the things that bothers me the most about this is not so much the pharmacist giving shots but I remember in the college I went to for my pre req for nursing that RN, LPN's, and Respitory therapists had to take way more anatomy and physiology classes than the pharmacist major's had to. Dont get me wrong Im not knockings the pharmacist. I know they have an intense education training behind them. There is no one better to talk to when you need information on a med that you can not find any where else and they most of the time are very helpful. But wouldn't it be cheaper for the pharmacy's to hire a lower educated person to do the job of giving out the flu shots such as a LPN/LVN or medical assistant?
    FOOD FOR THOGHT:typing
    :heartbeatTRICIA:heartbeat
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    No offense at all....in fact thats a good question. I was instructed in my program how to give shots, and I've only once or twice done so. One place I worked we placed / read all the PPD's. As far as certification, I don't know. I'm IV certified, and on our watered down version of an "IV team", but I've never heard of an institutional "shot certification". I'd be willing to bet a masters or doctorate level Pharmacist has had some advanced A&P. I'm not sure I've seen a tech giving shots at a pharmacy....do they? Think of it this way, instead of hiring additional personell to give shots, the corporate mindset is just adding another responsibility to an existing employee. The reason I asked about how much training a person should have is because I was going to ask your opinion about the (perhaps tens of thousands) of people who give insulin shots to loved ones at home.......or how about an epi shot?
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    Pharmacists aren't trained?


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