CNN: Nurses, teachers take on Schwarzenegger

  1. Could Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger have another "woman problem" on his hands?

    Tuesday, February 22, 2005
    Schwarzenegger made headlines in recent months by deriding political opponents as "girlie men" and ridiculing a group of nurses at a women's conference. Now, an effort to paint the state's teachers as little more than a balky special interest group has angered many critics, who have begun to question why constituencies dominated by women have been subjected to such tough talk.

    "He behaves like an arrogant patriarch with respect to women's occupations," said Rose Ann De Moro, executive director of the California Nurses Association. "Nurses, teachers, home health workers -- it's vulgar how he's run roughshod over them. He's arrogant, and he's a bully."

    As a candidate, Schwarzenegger was dogged by allegations that he had groped and humiliated women on movie sets. Since then, he has won over many skeptics by appointing women to key staff positions and relying on his wife, journalist and Democrat Maria Shriver, as his closest adviser.

    But recently, as he has pressed for budget cuts and a broad package of government reform proposals, some of his turbocharged rhetoric has opened him to charges that his views on women are demeaning and macho.

    ...
    The California Teachers Association and the California Nurses Association recently showed a willingness to take on the governor, staging protests and buying ads critical of his policies and proposals.

    Schwarzenegger has denounced teachers for blocking improvements to education and has made merit-based pay for teachers a centerpiece of his government reform plan.

    The teachers union is running radio commercials statewide criticizing the governor's proposals. Top officials of the organization, as well as some school administrators, also have accused Schwarzenegger of reneging on a promise to deliver $2 billion in revenue to schools.

    The nurses union has taken out full-page newspaper ads suggesting Schwarzenegger's corporate campaign donors are the real special interests.


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  3. by   Euskadi1946
    Quote from brian
    Could Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger have another "woman problem" on his hands?

    Tuesday, February 22, 2005
    Schwarzenegger made headlines in recent months by deriding political opponents as "girlie men" and ridiculing a group of nurses at a women's conference. Now, an effort to paint the state's teachers as little more than a balky special interest group has angered many critics, who have begun to question why constituencies dominated by women have been subjected to such tough talk.

    "He behaves like an arrogant patriarch with respect to women's occupations," said Rose Ann De Moro, executive director of the California Nurses Association. "Nurses, teachers, home health workers -- it's vulgar how he's run roughshod over them. He's arrogant, and he's a bully."

    As a candidate, Schwarzenegger was dogged by allegations that he had groped and humiliated women on movie sets. Since then, he has won over many skeptics by appointing women to key staff positions and relying on his wife, journalist and Democrat Maria Shriver, as his closest adviser.

    But recently, as he has pressed for budget cuts and a broad package of government reform proposals, some of his turbocharged rhetoric has opened him to charges that his views on women are demeaning and macho.

    ...
    The California Teachers Association and the California Nurses Association recently showed a willingness to take on the governor, staging protests and buying ads critical of his policies and proposals.

    Schwarzenegger has denounced teachers for blocking improvements to education and has made merit-based pay for teachers a centerpiece of his government reform plan.

    The teachers union is running radio commercials statewide criticizing the governor's proposals. Top officials of the organization, as well as some school administrators, also have accused Schwarzenegger of reneging on a promise to deliver $2 billion in revenue to schools.

    The nurses union has taken out full-page newspaper ads suggesting Schwarzenegger's corporate campaign donors are the real special interests.


    Full Story: http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/....ap/index.html
    I was watching Hannity and Combes this evening where they had a rep from the California Nurses Association, her name slips my mind who was trying to explain to Sean Hannity and Alan Combes the reasons why the CNA called Schwartzenegger a sexist and a bully. Between Hannity and some representative of Schwartzenegger the nurse could not get a word in edgewise to explain the California Nurses Association's position on the nurse/patient ratio bill that the governor wants to turn back. :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire Hannity and that woman were like raving maniacs yelling at that nurse and jumping into her face about how dare the CNA criticize Schwartzennegger and all that he has done for the state of California. :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire I'm so glad I don't live in California and Utah really isn't that much better either when it comes to nurse/patient ratios in the hospital which is why I left hospital nursing.
  4. by   NRSKarenRN
    confrontation is latest flare-up between california governor and nurses association

    a confrontation involving a film showing in the capital is the latest flare-up between members of the california nurses association and the administration of gov. arnold schwarzenegger over workforce issues. the nurses group is among the governor's most vocal critics, willing to disrupt his events with loud protests.


    los angeles times, feb. 23, 2005
  5. by   barefootlady
    I did not watch the show mentioned, but I am not surprised to read the nurse was given no respect by either the commentator or the other guest. We, as nurses are not shown respect for our services and care on a daily basis, so why would we expect it on national TV? Until people realize that we are very valuable and not there just to make the patient feel better, but we are doing a very tough and demanding job that takes education and skills to perform, we will never get the respect we deserve as a profession. I hope the teachers and the nurses in California hang "Big Arnold" out to dry.
  6. by   Spidey's mom
    I think merit pay for teachers is a good idea.

    steph
  7. by   SmilingBluEyes
    I think merit pay is good for all professions, to a degree.I also don't think bad teachers, nurses, what-not should be able to hold a position. Too many people are affected by such bad, poor performers.
  8. by   Kabin
    There was a brief, crappy news report yesterday on Fox about Schwarzenegger and the nurse's association, but they didn't report the issues and instead reported about the tiff between the governor and nurses. I think Schwarzenegger will be remembered as an infamous CA governor.
  9. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Don't expect FOX to give you the scoop on the Schwartzenegger/nursing issue.
  10. by   smk1
    Quote from stevielynn
    I think merit pay for teachers is a good idea.

    steph
    only to a degree though. What happens to teachers who work in areas where students are at risk, transient and ESL students? I worked in public elementary schools for a few years and I witnessed one teacher burst into tears when 2 russian students were added to her class roster 1 week before acheivement testing. They barely spoke any english (literally!) and yet their test scores would count towards her job performance evaluation. That is not fair but essentially that is what merit pay will do unless it is completely revamped as a program.
  11. by   Kabin
    Can't throw the baby out with the bath water. That's easily solvable. Situations like that need to be taken out of the merit pay system or made to weigh light in the overall score that they don't skew the teacher's true performance rating.
  12. by   pickledpepperRN
    Quote from CeCiRN
    I was watching Hannity and Combes this evening where they had a rep from the California Nurses Association, her name slips my mind who was trying to explain to Sean Hannity and Alan Combes the reasons why the CNA called Schwartzenegger a sexist and a bully. Between Hannity and some representative of Schwartzenegger the nurse could not get a word in edgewise to explain the California Nurses Association's position on the nurse/patient ratio bill that the governor wants to turn back. :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire Hannity and that woman were like raving maniacs yelling at that nurse and jumping into her face about how dare the CNA criticize Schwartzennegger and all that he has done for the state of California. :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire I'm so glad I don't live in California and Utah really isn't that much better either when it comes to nurse/patient ratios in the hospital which is why I left hospital nursing.
    Were they acting like bullys too?
    Seems they didn't want to talk about the real issue of patient care.
  13. by   smk1
    Quote from Kabin
    Can't throw the baby out with the bath water. That's easily solvable. Situations like that need to be taken out of the merit pay system or made to weigh light in the overall score that they don't skew the teacher's true performance rating.
    exactly, and there are a host of other areas hat come into play as well. I personally like the idea of comrehensive student portfolios with educational goals for the grade, but also for the students needs. Exceptional students need to be challenged and encouraged to excel, students who are struggling need a separate list of goals to work on as well as the grade level goals. I think working with ESL teachers/tutors to set out a specific plan for the teachers (and parents ideally ) the students to work towards would help the student and be more fair to the teachers evaluation, rather than just relying on standardized tests. Boy early childhood education is really becoming my soapbox issue lately :chuckle I could go on and on about changes that are needed but I'll refrain guys!
  14. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from SMK1
    exactly, and there are a host of other areas hat come into play as well. I personally like the idea of comrehensive student portfolios with educational goals for the grade, but also for the students needs. Exceptional students need to be challenged and encouraged to excel, students who are struggling need a separate list of goals to work on as well as the grade level goals. I think working with ESL teachers/tutors to set out a specific plan for the teachers (and parents ideally ) the students to work towards would help the student and be more fair to the teachers evaluation, rather than just relying on standardized tests. Boy early childhood education is really becoming my soapbox issue lately :chuckle I could go on and on about changes that are needed but I'll refrain guys!
    You make really good points - my sil is a ESL teacher. My best friend teaches 8th graders. "Standard" is a misnomer . . . .

    We do teach to the middle now . . . there is no real help for the kids who are struggling and nothing to keep our exceptional students challenged.

    Homeschooled my kids off and on .. I have a 3 year old who I am going to homeschool for longer . . .the little private school my older children went to during elementary school has closed. 1st - 8th graders, usually about 15 kids. Great school!!! I'll miss it.

    steph

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