'Cannabis nurse' gives up license (Albany Democrat-Herald)

  1. A local nurse and medicinal marijuana advocate fired last April by Samaritan Health Services for refusing to take a drug test has surrendered his nursing license rather than stop using pot.

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  3. by   Gromit
    "He argues that marijuana is a beneficial substance that has been “demonized” by the government.

    “I’m not going to go into drug treatment because I admitted to using pot,” he said.

    Glick, 49, became an advocate for medicinal marijuana, leading demonstrations, speaking at conferences and handing out business cards identifying him as a “cannabis nurse.” "

    Well, with that attitude, I don't suppose we will worry too much about him getting his license back, or practicing in the profession.
    I generally avoid taking sides in the 'legalize marijuana' bit, but I certainly don't like the idea of a nurse possibly taking a few tokes on break, then coming back in to pass meds...
  4. by   toweldryonly
    Gromit .......what a comment to make.....tokin on break.....im sure the nurse in question was a professional and would not dream of smokin on duty...as much as having afew quick pints (thats 16 fluid oz!) during lunch....its when people make judgements/ statements like that causes me concern........
    Last edit by brian on Nov 29, '06 : Reason: edited personal attack out
  5. by   Spidey's mom
    This reeks of "adolescent brain" syndrome. I should know, I have raised two teenage boys, have a teenage girl and was a teenager myself once.

    Please, this is not something to lose your licence over. If you want to legalize pot, work within the rules to try to do so.

    sheesh . . .


    steph

    p.s. “All nurses have to abide by the Nurse Practice Act,” and you know that going in. Grow up.
    Last edit by Spidey's mom on Nov 29, '06
  6. by   Gromit
    Quote from toweldryonly
    Gromit you bell-end.......what a comment to make.....tokin on break.....im sure the nurse in question was a professional and would not dream of smokin on duty...as much as having afew quick pints (thats 16 fluid oz!) during lunch....its when people make judgements/ statements like that causes me concern........have a brain...then use it.
    Bell-end. I like that.

    Well, I certainly hope you're right about that, but the guys' comments struck me as being those of a juvenile mentality, so I wouldn't be too sure of it.
    Impaired nurses has been something of a problem -at least it has in my part of the state. Its just the impression I got from reading this guys' comments. He REALLY needs to grow up a bit.
  7. by   toweldryonly
    'impaired nurses!........its the doctors that you gotta watch out for....half of them are smacked out their tits'.....cited in T.dryonlys, 'This is what i've seen' volume 1089a.
  8. by   GardenDove
    The big problem with pot is it's effect on memory. I used to smoke heavily as a teenager, and it really affects your memory, even when you're not 'high'. I've had a few pts that were on medicinal marijuana, and basically they were aging hippies who had gotten their presciptions from sympathetic docs, and they used it for 'pain'. As I recall from my pot days, the only pain it relieved was my emotional pain from living with a stepfather who was a total jerk and my enabling mother who put up with it. Medicinal pot is legal in my state, I don't have a big problem with it, but I don't think nurses should be smoking pot.
  9. by   Gromit
    Quote from toweldryonly
    'impaired nurses!........its the doctors that you gotta watch out for....half of them are smacked out their tits'.....cited in T.dryonlys, 'This is what i've seen' volume 1089a.
    Well, I would definately take issue with your figures (half of 'em being impaired) but I don't really care much about the docs. The docs aren't passing meds -and the ones doing anything more than checking a wound are usually surrounded by more than just themselves (since I work in a teaching hospital, we rarely see just one doc doing anything more than checking a wound -and rarely even that much). If an impaired doc writes an order that looks unreasonable, any of the nurses >I< know will call and verify it -at least question it. In any case, docs aren't the issue.
  10. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from Gromit
    Well, I would definately take issue with your figures (half of 'em being impaired) but I don't really care much about the docs. The docs aren't passing meds -and the ones doing anything more than checking a wound are usually surrounded by more than just themselves (since I work in a teaching hospital, we rarely see just one doc doing anything more than checking a wound -and rarely even that much). If an impaired doc writes an order that looks unreasonable, any of the nurses >I< know will call and verify it -at least question it. In any case, docs aren't the issue.

    I like the phrasing "toweldryonly" uses too . . . . "bell end" and "smacked out of their tits'" . . . .

    As to half of docs being smacked out of their tits . . .I also disagree with that.

    But we do have a problem with medical folks using drugs . . . .CRNA's and anesthesiologists with Fentanyl, nurses stealing Vicodin, docs on "laughing gas" . . (local stories) . . . .

    Just what we need, another impaired person with the power to hurt others.

    steph
  11. by   ZASHAGALKA
    Quote from GardenDove
    Medicinal pot is legal in my state, I don't have a big problem with it, but I don't think nurses should be smoking pot.
    Not true. Medicinal MJ is illegal in every state in the Nation, whether that state voted to allow it, or not.

    In fact, it is a violation of FEDERAL law to possess or use MJ. And Federal Law has supremacy over state law.

    I've posted this on MJ threads before, and can look it up if need be, but the Supreme Cabal has ruled exactly as I said: no state can make MJ legal because the federal ban has supremacy.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
  12. by   GardenDove
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    Not true. Medicinal MJ is illegal in every state in the Nation, whether that state voted to allow it, or not.

    In fact, it is a violation of FEDERAL law to possess or use MJ. And Federal Law has supremacy over state law.

    I've posted this on MJ threads before, and can look it up if need be, but the Supreme Cabal has ruled exactly as I said: no state can make MJ legal because the federal ban has supremacy.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    I know I've had 2 pts recently who have stated that they are on medicinal marijuana. They were both washed out, long haired aging hippies. Below is a link to the info on the Washington State FAQ on medicinal pot

    Washington State Medical Marijuana FAQ
    WASHINGTON STATE MEDICAL MARIJUANA FAQ

    This compilation of frequently asked questions (FAQ) contains answers to common questions about Initiative 692 (the Washington State medical use of marijuana act) as well as general questions about medical marijuana in Washington State.
    This FAQ is compiled by Ben Livingston. Updated June 27, 2006. Send corrections and clarifications to ben at hemp dot net. In no event shall the authors or distributors be liable to anyone for anything.
    Copyleft 1998-2006 Ben Livingston.

  13. by   ZASHAGALKA
    Supreme Court allows prosecution of medical marijuana

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday ruled doctors can be blocked from prescribing marijuana for patients suffering from pain caused by cancer or other serious illnesses.

    CNN.com - Supreme Court allows prosecution of medical marijuana - Jun 6, 2005

    "The decision means that federal anti-drug laws trump state laws that allow the use of medical marijuana, said CNN senior legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin. Ten states have such laws."

    "If medical marijuana advocates want to get their views successfully presented, they have to go to Congress; they can't go to the states, because it's really the federal government that's in charge here," Toobin said.


    ~faith,
    Timothy.
  14. by   GardenDove
    Well, they must not be strictly enforcing this because I had both these pts in the last month or two. The last one was in CCU 3, I remember him clearly. He and I discussed it, he told me it was for pain. I thought he was going to be on the light and needy, but he turned out to be a pretty nice pt. He was in for new onset A-fib I think, and was over metoprolized and was bradycardic all night.

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