California Nurses sue governor - page 3

Sacramento -- Two weeks after branding them "special interests" and bragging he can "kick their butt," Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger was sued Tuesday by California's largest nursing union as it moved to... Read More

  1. by   janet r. gowen
    For over a quarter of a century I have been practicing nursing and find the developments in the law interesting and long coming.
    When I first started the technology was not as advanced, the liability was less and the staffing rations were minimum ten to one. Even in the "primitive days" this was unacceptable as it left precious little time for patient care, education and left you feeling you hadn't done your job.
    In this day and age the technology is overwhelming, the patients we care for on the general floors were the ones in the special care units then the requirements set forth by nursing and our organizations related to education, care standards and treatments require a mandatory staffing ratio to bring an acceptable outcome to our patients.
    The Governor of California should be aware of this need. if it were his family member or himself on an understaffed unit he would not be pleased.
    The mandatory ratio is something that needs to me passed, after all California has always led the country in acceptable standards and this standard is a long time coming
    Keep up the fight CNA bring the rights that are due to both nursing and patients
  2. by   oramar
    Quote from casper1
    Hip, Hip Hooray, These Politicians are bought and sold by special interests. Who do they think their fooling. Arnold, Yes Nurses do have a special interest, the best welfare
    of our patient whether or not their rich or poor.
    I was thinking the same thing. Yes we have special interest for sure. The poor, the sick, the disenfranchised or anyone else the average politician does not give a hoot about.
  3. by   NurseGuy_in_06
    Nurses fighting for nurses. The ONLY way we will achieve anything! Fight On!!!
  4. by   Sadie04
    WAY TO GO NURSES!
  5. by   TRichter
    [font=fixedsys]i think we need to remember the patients that are waiting in the emergency room and/or awaiting surgery due to the lack of nurses. how would each of us feel if our loved one was very sick or in pain and was told there was no bed available because of the nursing ratio. there are special circumstances in all cases. yes, we are over worked but we joined the profession to help people. however, i do think that the govenor overstepped his legal limits and needs to be reminded that this is a democratic country.
    Quote from brian
    sacramento -- two weeks after branding them "special interests" and bragging he can "kick their butt," gov. arnold schwarzenegger was sued tuesday by california's largest nursing union as it moved to uphold landmark hospital staffing ratios recently blocked by his administration.

    the lawsuit, filed in sacramento superior court by the california nurses association, attacks the governor's suspension of a 1-to-5 nurse-to-patient staffing requirement that was to become law next week, in part by charging his action illegally subverts the legislature.

    the bill, a first-in-the-nation mandate to ensure patient care would not suffer from overburdened nurses, was passed in the legislature and signed into law in 1999 by then-gov. gray davis.

    in its lawsuit filed tuesday, the 60,000-member nurses' association reiterates its claim that failure to further lower the number of patients assigned to each nurse on a general medical floor endangers care. but the group also charged that schwarzenegger's move fell short of the legal requirement for issuing an emergency regulation -- and that the governor had abused his discretion in doing so. "there was no emergency," said rose ann demoro, executive director of the nurses' association. she called schwarzenegger's act "a special interest payoff" that typifies a period of leadership "when corporations really do control a government."

    full story: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl.../22/nurses.tmp
  6. by   NurseGuy_in_06
    Quote from trichter
    [font=fixedsys]i think we need to remember the patients that are waiting in the emergency room and/or awaiting surgery due to the lack of nurses. how would each of us feel if our loved one was very sick or in pain and was told there was no bed available because of the nursing ratio. there are special circumstances in all cases. yes, we are over worked but we joined the profession to help people. however, i do think that the govenor overstepped his legal limits and needs to be reminded that this is a democratic country.
    and how many times are we supposed to roll over and take it because of the tired mantra "we joined the profession to help people therefore we deserve what we get"? i have been there before in other professions. any time nurses talk about more pay or better staffing ratios management runs to the press saying we are greedy and don't care about the patient. but do they ever reduce a patient's bill because of insufficient staffing?
  7. by   TRichter
    I am not saying that I don't agree with the ratio law, I just don't understand what is to be done with the sick and injured that can't get into a bed, Here in California many hospitals are closing doors, especially to ER and trauma rooms. I don't thinki there is any easy fix to the problem.
    Quote from NurseGuy_in_06
    And how many times are we supposed to roll over and take it because of the tired mantra "we joined the profession to help people therefore we deserve what we get"? I have been there before in other professions. Any time nurses talk about more pay or better staffing ratios management runs to the press saying we are greedy and don't care about the patient. But do they ever reduce a patient's bill because of insufficient staffing?
  8. by   pickledpepperRN
    I wonder why they can afford new buildings, gardens, fountains, lobbies, and art for the walls but no the NURSES who provide the nursing care. Nursing care is the reason for a hospital. Period. Nothing else.

    A little information on hospitals, expenditures, and choices.
    http://radicalfusion.org/files.calnu...ncilreport.pdf
    http://radicalfusion.org/files.calnu...extreport1.pdf
    http://radicalfusion.org/files.calnu...ingRatios6.pdf
    http://radicalfusion.org/files.calnu...harmaStudy.pdf
    http://radicalfusion.org/files.calnu...ahear31103.pdf
    http://radicalfusion.org/files.calnu...chart31103.pdf
  9. by   stevierae
    Quote from TRichter
    I am not saying that I don't agree with the ratio law, I just don't understand what is to be done with the sick and injured that can't get into a bed, Here in California many hospitals are closing doors, especially to ER and trauma rooms. I don't thinki there is any easy fix to the problem.
    Oh, there's a solution--eliminate the big bonuses for management and administration; get rid of middle management entirely, and hire enough RNs to staff the hospitals according to state LAW--AB 394--that hospitals have had YEARS to come into compliance with. Also, RNs need to say "NO" to mandatory overtime and unsafe staffing conditions--put the responsibility on MANAGEMENT, where it belongs.
  10. by   lee1
    Quote from stevierae
    Oh, there's a solution--eliminate the big bonuses for management and administration; get rid of middle management entirely, and hire enough RNs to staff the hospitals according to state LAW--AB 394--that hospitals have had YEARS to come into compliance with. Also, RNs need to say "NO" to mandatory overtime and unsafe staffing conditions--put the responsibility on MANAGEMENT, where it belongs.

    Yes, someone remind me just WHY we need middle management who in my experience for the most part DISTORT the information that is passed to upper management to make themselves look good. Beyond scheduling and ordering supplies for the unit what is their purpose?? Most do NOT want to help out with covering breaks, meals, educational inservices, committee meetings. Staff meetings where info is passed along from upper management could be given directly, clinical educators who educate, not spend time writing up bogus policies that we are drowning in. Put more responsiblitiy on the upper management who spends all their time holding meeting for the lower management. Just give the info directly. Hire a few more good administrative secretaries which cost half the money as a nurse.
  11. by   Jonty45
    [font=Comic Sans MS]The really scary s*** is that it was actually suggested that Schwarzenegger might be eligible to run for Presidency in the future...if that's the case I guess we should put our heads between our legs and kiss ourA??? goodbye...
  12. by   bluesky
    You go Cali nurses!!!
  13. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Quote from spacenurse
    I wonder why they can afford new buildings, gardens, fountains, lobbies, and art for the walls but no the NURSES who provide the nursing care. Nursing care is the reason for a hospital. Period. Nothing else.

    A little information on hospitals, expenditures, and choices.
    http://radicalfusion.org/files.calnu...ncilreport.pdf
    http://radicalfusion.org/files.calnu...extreport1.pdf
    http://radicalfusion.org/files.calnu...ingRatios6.pdf
    http://radicalfusion.org/files.calnu...harmaStudy.pdf
    http://radicalfusion.org/files.calnu...ahear31103.pdf
    http://radicalfusion.org/files.calnu...chart31103.pdf
    Thank you, as always, you cut to the chase, Spacenurse!

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