CA nurse and overtime pay - page 2

Notice...throughout the article, there are numerous state employees that got huge pay....but they focused on a NURSE!... Read More

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    I work in a med surg floor and I can say med surg nurses deserved every penny of their salary. I think we need a higher pay also. Those who disagree, volunteer to a med surg floor to see how crazy it is. Lets ee if you dont change the way you view us nurses.

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    Something that the angry teacher left out...

    He mentioned how he's out of work and boy is his blood boiling...well...I live in CA (central valley) and this poor out of work teacher left out the fact that HE could go work for the CDC as a teacher and make overtime money too. He has chosen not to (maybe cuz I don't know him personally).

    I am a retired educator (teacher for 7 years then administrator then retired) and I can work at the state prison (there's two about 25 min away) but chose not to and decided to go back to school for nursing.

    If he thinks its such a great deal then he, in my opinion, can go to work at the prison; they hire teachers too.
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    Quote from Conqueror+
    I have worked corrections and will boldly say that she earned EVERY penny
    Also they mention CA Central Coast. I've had plenty of offers for a travel contract to out in the boonies for corrections. They really are desperate. They'll even still take new grads. So I think that nurse racked up all that OT because there was no one else to take the shifts.

    Moral of the story? If you really really really want a job in nursing be willing to move out to the boonies and work corrections.
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    The article reads, "Jean Keller earned $269,810 last year working as a nurse at a men’s prison on California’s central coast by tripling her regular pay with overtime hours".

    Yeah she made money but look at the environment he works in, it's a Prison. There has to be some incentive for someone to want to work in that type of environment. There are hazzards associated with working in a Prison that is not seen working in an acute care setting like a Kaiser hospital downtown. There are some instances where you can not leave the facility after your shift, such as lockdown or the on coming Rn does not show up. The over time pay could be attributed to these mandatory prolonged work hours.

    I dont get why they use a prison RN as the first example. I am pretty sure that the Computer Specialist working in the Legislator's Legal Office that made over $130,000 in one year with over time is a better example. I mean office is not a dangerous location to work at. So how does paying this guy $61,000 in overtime ontop of his $71,000 in reguar salary make sense? What is the rationale for paying your computer tech this much money, do you not know how to trouble shoot your own problems? Were you setting up wifi, o wait I can do that my self.
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    Conversely I know when I was working registery at a County facility that all their nurses were on salary so did not get paid overtime unless they could document that they were actively giving patient care ( ambulatory clinic )
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    Heres another link for an article about the same nurse. Check out the salary for the head parole psychiatrist who made over $800,000!!! No overtime mentioned in his salary. But no its the nurses fault, lets be mad at her for working in a mens prison, which had to be a lot to make that much overtime. And I live in CA, I have been told that prison nurses often are not able to leave because they cant find enough nurses to work in the prisons, so she was either stuck there till whoever came to releive her or she would be charged with abandonment. Nurses deserve more respect, people dont understand what we go through every day!
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    I think the reporters that write these stories are overpaid.
    Last edit by msn10 on Nov 1, '11
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    Quote from lindarn
    We can say all we want, how the public loves and trusts nurses, and we come out on top every year when the public is polled on the most trustworthy profession.

    But the reality is, the public thinks we are a bunch of underedeucated, overpaid females, who get paid way too much to pass out pitchers of ice watere and fluff pillows. They have no concept of the important role that we play, and hospitals work VERY hard, to keep it that way. The public equates worth with education.

    That is one of the main reasons that I advocate increasing the entry into practice for nurses, and advocate that ALL nurse join the National Nurses Organizing Commitee. With union protection, nurses can educate the public, fight the deskillling of our profession, and have a voice.

    There is no better time than now to protect our professiona image and practice. I am seeing ads on buses for pharmacists, and how important they are to your health care, etc, blah blah blah.

    They are being proactive in the face of some form of health care reform with Obabacare. They are ensuring their piece of the pie. Nurses need to follow suit and start plugging ourselves to the public before we really are replaced by Medtechs.

    JMHO and my NY $0.02.

    LIndarn, RN,BSN,CCRN
    Somewhere in the PACNW
    I am in. Give me guidance and I will stand with you.
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    Good for the nurse!!!! That nurse worked their butt off and got the money that they deserved.
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    Quote from elprup
    I am in. Give me guidance and I will stand with you.
    In addition to seeeing Pharmacist advertising themselves to the public, I just saw ads someplace, about, of all things, PHYSICIAN ASSISTANTS, how they diagnose, treat, etc. In other words, how important they are to the public.

    Why aren't nurses doing things like that? Because nurses cannot afford to, and they would get fired for doing it, do to not having any professional protection. Like all other professions do. And too many nurses buy the, "its not professional to join a union !!"

    Nurses, wise up. I don't care if you work in an at will, right to work state, call the NNOC and start the ball rolling an unionize!!! You may think that you are helping your patients because, "heavens to betsey!", you might have to go out on strike if you belong to a union!What would happen to your patients if you went on strike?

    Meanwhile, you are caring for 10 patients, with no help, you get admissions and discharges, supposed to do patient discharge teaching, call doctors to clarify orders, have to be a maid, waitress, punching bag, to a room full of "needy" visitors, have to update care plans, etc. You haven't peed since you left the house, haven't had a break or a bit to eat since you had dinner last night. Your patient's meds are an hour late, you haven't gotten to the dressing change, change the infiltrated IV site, etc. Is your patient better off because you are not unionized, and can't go on strike for better staffing, and working conditions?

    And you are concerned that you might not be professional if you join a union? You are concerned about the remote possibility of having to go on strike? Look at what you daily life is like as a nurse. How many professionals have a day like this? On a routine basis? THEY are professionals like nurses. But they control their profession, unlike nurses.

    Your patient is far more likely to have an adverse event happen with the above working conditions, than if the nursing staff goes on strike! In other words, your concerns for your patient are misguided. To say the least. Think about it. Are your patients REALLY better off if you are not unionized?

    JMHO and my NY $0.02.
    Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN
    Somewhere in the PACNW
    Last edit by lindarn on Nov 1, '11

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