Arizona Nurse's License Threatened by Doctor After Providing pt education - page 5

the email and arizona state board of nursing casethis is a (must read) e-mail that was passed to me from echo heron. @echoheronauthor hello ms. heron, my name is amanda trujillo. i'm a registered... Read More

  1. Visit  GitanoRN} profile page
    Certainly, most of you have heard or seeing this on the news, regarding a Arizona Nurse getting her license threatened by a doctor and lastly,Fired from Banner hospital. A Banner hospital doctor allegedly, has her license threatened for providing patient education. However, the latest news was that she was fired from Banner hospital. Admittedly, I'm at a lost for words regarding this incident, although not surprised by the treatment that we nurses have to endure at times. I read this and felt the need to share.

    January 22, 2012 by the Nerdy Nurse.There are times in my nursing career when I am so very proud of how far we have come in advancing our profession. Unfortunately, there are also times where I am reminded that this is still very much an uphill climb we must make in order to legitimately participate in truly collaborative healthcare. Today is one of those days in which I am reminded we still have battles to win. The following blog post is related to an email that was originally sent to @EchoHeronAuthor. It was then posted on Vernon Dutton's Posterous, Amanda Trujillo case will go before the Arizona State Board of Nursing on January 24th, 2012.
    Her story is one of an archaic medical model in which the doctor's word is supreme and we are all just nurse maids here to do their bidding. This is an indication that there are many who do not wish to continue to advance toward collaborative healthcare in which we work as a team to provide patients with the best care possible. This is also an example of persons who may not be in medicine for the right reasons.
    Success in healthcare is not defined by how many treatments and tests you can perform on a patient. Success is defined by the ability to help a patient make informed decisions on their path in health an life. If that path includes surgery, then so be it. If that path does not, and we have informed the patient of all the options and they are capable of making an informed and rational decision, then we have been successful.
    I'm really disgusted that a healthcare organization would bow to the tantrum of one very arrogant and immature physician. If there was one example of a surgeon with a God-Complex, this is one.
    I encourage you to read the email and case below and to reach out to Amanda Trujillo (@FYRHONEYBSN on twitter) to show her your support. We need patient advocates like her to take care of us. Do you want your loved ones to have the right of choice in their healthcare stripped away from them by a detached physician?
    You can also email the Arizona State Board of Nursing and let them know you are following Ms. Trujillo's case:

    Below you'll find the link if you like to read in more addition, what has happened to this nurse and her family in the course of this ordeal...
    Last edit by GitanoRN on Feb 1, '12
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  3. Visit  SuesquatchRN} profile page
    Dr Thaddeus Pope, who has a blog I follow daily, posted this today.

    Medical Futility Blog
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  4. Visit  Esme12} profile page
    This was brought up a couple of days ago........shocking!!!!
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  5. Visit  lindarn} profile page
    Amanda should have gone public with this story from the get go, and let the public know how their safety is threatened. Public opinion is very powerful. Teachers do it all the time and get their story out to the public for support.

    Call CNN, as well as local media. Dr. Gupta should be a good ally!

    JMHO and my NY $0.02.
    Lindarn, RN, BSN,CCRN
    Somewhere in the PACNW
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  6. Visit  turnforthenurseRN} profile page
    wow, a psych eval? seriously?

    she stayed within her scope. Education is part of our scope and anytime there is question regarding a surgical procedure it is the surgeon's responsibility to provide that informed consent. She was advocating for her patient.
  7. Visit  jbluehorseh} profile page
    i do not know if this hospital has union, but this is a gleaming reason why there needs to be one. it makes the hospital follow its own policies and procedures for disciplinary actions. the unions are not all about the money, but far treatment, patient safety and rights. i wonder why there was a need for a physic evaluation. or was it a ploy to slander her further.
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  8. Visit  subee} profile page
    GitanoRN: Thank you for this post and the link to NerdyNurse which makes donating so EASY. Nurses, unite. Let's take care of Amanda's
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  9. Visit  Not_A_Hat_Person} profile page
    I think there's another thread about this.

    Regardless, I'm very skeptical of a story that has so far only appeared on a blog and facebook. Have any news organizations picked up on this?
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  10. Visit  TheGuestNurse} profile page
    I do want to let you know, Amanda did not ask me to write about her.
    Her story struck a nerve with me because it's something I feel we have all encountered in some way. I see this among nurse daily who are afraid of "what they can tell" a patient.

    Amanda is the poser child for a much bigger issues in nursing and healthcare.

    We should never fear the ability to advocate for our patients. We should never fear the ability to educate our patients. I hope Amanda's story helps to bring the issue closer to home because even thought it's unfortunate, nearly every nurse has encountered this fear in their practice.

    This is bigger than just Amanda and Banner heath. This is about patients rights and the need for nurses to be able to advocate for their rights without feare of retaliation.

    That you for sharing my aricle herer. I welcome any comments and perspectives.
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  11. Visit  TheGuestNurse} profile page
    Also, here is "legitimate" news coverage:
    Nurse says she was fired for educating patient - CBS 5 - KPHOlthough I will say, that media is changing, and bloggers should not be discounted for their contributions.

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  12. Visit  kcmylorn} profile page
    AM I reading Amanda's letter wrong on Nerddy Nurse?

    Does that MD doctor understand these initials after that Nurse's name- DNS. AND an NP to boot. [Amanda Lucia Trujillo MSN, RN, DNSc-NP(s)]

    In my state she can order, write and sign prescriptions and expect that they will be filled.

    That nurse is a doctorate of nursing science!!! In her own right she IS called "doctor" ( not should be or would be nice to be called)

    What is wrong with Arizona??

    What is wrong with nursing? I am outraged.

    The Nursing PTB are pushing us RN's to get these ANP degrees- MSN(which is also after Doctor Amanada's name) and the DNS degree for what???- for the likes of this? Or is it just to keep these nursing programs in business, collect tuition money and keep these professors in jobs.

    With her Doctorate of Nursing doesn't she have as much education and training as that enraged physician??( Let's do the math: BSN- 4 years, MSN- say another 2 at the minimum; DSN another 2 years at the minimum PLUS 6 years experience aka equivalent to a medical internship, residency) Are you kidding me??)

    I think educating patient are at the very least of her scope practice. Especially if her NP is in Palliative care/Oncology.

    Go, Dr Amanda- give them all H***. Full throttle, the power of the pen, expose them

    That medical doctor is just mad because he was upstaged by an NURSE, a NURSE HE should be calling "DOCTOR"!! He lost out on thousands of dollars for a surgical proceedure. It's no longer quality of life or 'risk vs.benefit'. It's 'greed vs benefit'- the mantra of the contemporary American healthcare system. PURE GREED- JMHO
    Last edit by kcmylorn on Feb 1, '12 : Reason: To past Doctor Amanda's credentials to post from Nerdy Nurse article
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  13. Visit  fltnrse2} profile page
    It is the physician to give to a patient "informed Consent" period, and it doesn't sound like he did. As Nurses patient advocacy if our priority period! I can't beleive this has made it in front of the board. I support you 100%, please keep us posted. Have you thought about your legal rights for instance "retailation" from the white coat? Damages, loss wages, slander to your repretation, legal fees, and don't forget from now until you retire from nursing when renewing your license you will have to answer "yes" to the question has your license ever been etc. He is a tip. Make a copy of all of your legal paperwork and any other documentation make a copy of it and sent
    all of it into the Board when it's timefor renewal, if you do a written statement and leave something out because you simply forgot the ASBN will come after you for fraud.
    Trust me, it's happened to me. Hang in there, you are what every patient deserves!
    I'm signing the petition for the ASBN. Be strong, hold your head high, you haven't done anything to be ashamed of. FLTNRSE
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  14. Visit  leslie :-D} profile page
    Quote from TheNerdyNurse
    Also, here is "legitimate" news coverage:
    Nurse says she was fired for educating patient - CBS 5 - KPHOlthough I will say, that media is changing, and bloggers should not be discounted for their contributions.

    your link states webpage can't be found.
    let's see if my link works.
    Nurse says she was fired for educating patient - CBS 5 - KPHO


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