Arizona Nurse's License Threatened by Doctor After Providing pt education - page 16

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the email and arizona state board of nursing casethis is a (must read) e-mail that was passed to me from echo heron. @echoheronauthor hello ms. heron, my name is amanda trujillo. i知 a registered nurse of six years ,... Read More


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    10:17 pm by morte and what experience do you base this on?

    Well based on my experience I have worked with multiple RN's who definitely did not provide the standard of care required. It was obvious they should find employment elsewhere that was a better fit. Were they fired easily? No. It took write up after write up and tons of documentation of mistakes to prove they were unfit. I have never seen a RN fired in my day who did not deserve it. If anything I have seen sub par nurses work for a long time before they were fired. Its hard to get fired in my opinion.

    I don't mean to come off as not compassionate because I definitely feel bad for anyone who is fired. I never want to be fired and I know I am not immune to it, I am by no means perfect. However, if you are performing inefficient or unsafe care it is a big deal and you should not remain in employment in that position if you can not perform the expected duties.

    I know there are some cases where someone is unfortunate and runs into vindictive nurses or doctors and gets fired unfairly but that is the exception not the rule.

    This lady Ms Trujilo is a perfect example, some people make it out like they are the victim but when you look at the full story there have been multiple documented incidents where they performed substandard care.
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    It is your job to question that jack a-- (surgeon or any surgeon).
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    In this case, the nurse? (Ms. Trujilo) probably deserved to be fired; however, there are good nurses who get fired, not due to how they peformed on job but over false rumors and jealously from other nurses.
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    Wow... I just read that and hate that I felt sorry for her and her situation in the beginning.
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    Although there are numerous other parts to the complaint that raise concern about how and when the 'education' was delivered to the patient, I think the critical part of the complaint submission from the hospital is paragraph 22:

    "22. On or about April 14, 2011, at or around 5:12 a.m., Respondent practiced outside her scope when she ordered a “case management social service consult” for patient D.F. requesting a “home hospice evaluation.” Respondent documented that the ordering physician was Dr. Pedro R. Rodriguez. On or about January 13, 2012, Respondent admitted to Board staff during interview that Respondent had not spoken to Dr. Rodriquez or any other physician, and did not have a verbal or telephone order from Dr. Rodriquez authorizing a consult order to evaluate patient D.F. for hospice. "

    They are not claiming that Ms. Trujillo was not allowed to order the home hospice evaluation, just that she seems to have indicated that Dr. Rodriquez (sic) made the order for the evaluation and hence has responsibility for that order. It would appear that when he discovered that he was named as the originator of the order (which Ms. Trujillo admits is not the case even in her own account) he was quite angry.

    When I read cases like this, I often think what I would have done if this had happened on my ward with one of my staff. In this case, I would certainly have reined in the doctor if he was ranting and raving in a public area of the ward but only really because I reserve the right to be first in line when one of my staff clearly needs a massive disciplinary intervention*.

    One always has to approach any internet posts with a large pinch of salt - they will always be biased towards the originator - but it's nice to see that the opposing argument has also come to light via the magic of the www......


    *by which I mean ranting and raving but behind closed doors......
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    It has been stated elsewhere, that NO drs name was used. So, again, we will have to wait and see.....
    Quote from great_bu
    Although there are numerous other parts to the complaint that raise concern about how and when the 'education' was delivered to the patient, I think the critical part of the complaint submission from the hospital is paragraph 22:

    "22. On or about April 14, 2011, at or around 5:12 a.m., Respondent practiced outside her scope when she ordered a 田ase management social service consult for patient D.F. requesting a 塗ome hospice evaluation. Respondent documented that the ordering physician was Dr. Pedro R. Rodriguez. On or about January 13, 2012, Respondent admitted to Board staff during interview that Respondent had not spoken to Dr. Rodriquez or any other physician, and did not have a verbal or telephone order from Dr. Rodriquez authorizing a consult order to evaluate patient D.F. for hospice. "

    They are not claiming that Ms. Trujillo was not allowed to order the home hospice evaluation, just that she seems to have indicated that Dr. Rodriquez (sic) made the order for the evaluation and hence has responsibility for that order. It would appear that when he discovered that he was named as the originator of the order (which Ms. Trujillo admits is not the case even in her own account) he was quite angry.

    When I read cases like this, I often think what I would have done if this had happened on my ward with one of my staff. In this case, I would certainly have reined in the doctor if he was ranting and raving in a public area of the ward but only really because I reserve the right to be first in line when one of my staff clearly needs a massive disciplinary intervention*.

    One always has to approach any internet posts with a large pinch of salt - they will always be biased towards the originator - but it's nice to see that the opposing argument has also come to light via the magic of the www......


    *by which I mean ranting and raving but behind closed doors......
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    It is amazing to see all the support out there for this nurse, not just on AN but all over the internet. I tried looking around but I can't find out what finally happened!?
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    the charges are still pending.......here is the link to the notice of charges on this blog site:

    documentation from the az bon on amanda trujillo サ not nurse ratched

    (the link to the notice of charges is under the first paragraph).
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    Wow...just wow. I had a niggling feeling all along that there were something more than what was posted on the internet...but after reading the pending charges, I'm a little flabbergasted that she was allowed to practice for as long as she did.
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    Interesting read. Sounds like bipolar typical off the meds bipolar behavior to me. Not saying she is, but just kind of typical grandiose thoughts/behavior pattern. Thanks for providing the factual info.
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