Arizona Nurse's License Threatened by Doctor After Providing pt education - Page 15

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  1. Feb 28, '12 by
    Quote from Diegoseesnurses
    I am currently on the verge of getting into an Accelerated BSN program and have no hospital exp. but from an outsider point of view this is a very sticky situation. Do hospitals have different guidelines for stuff of this nature? I would've thought that being a patient advocate is one of the functions of a nurse.
    Used to be. Now you need to be a hospital advocate, talk up the hospital services and your coworkers so patients feel good about their stay. Patient advocacy comes in so long as it doesn't cost profits.
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  2. Feb 29, '12 by
    this should answer the question as to why this entire farce is happening. i remember posting "someone knows someone" between hospital, dr transplant and the az. bon. i believe i gave the suggestion of "golf buddies". and a bang on response to my comment was "follow the money" well here it is- the money trail dr transplant, hosptial and bon and az nursing association. this makes me ashamed i'm an rn. and i don't live in az. never been there.

    excerpt taken from :amanda trujillo | whitecoat's call room
    "when two nurses complained to the texas medical board that a physician was trying to hock herbal medications to hospital clinic patients, they were fired and prosecuted for criminal acts. the texas nurse’s association became outraged, established a legal defense fund for the nurses, and fought for them. in the end, the doctor was the subject of a complaint by the texas medical board, and the hospital at which the nurses worked was fined for firing the nurses.
    why isn’t the arizona nurses association taking any action on amanda’s behalf? i might have an idea.
    it so happens that the president of the arizona nurse’s association, teri wicker, is also the director of professional practice at banner del e webb medical center – the same hospital where amanda trujillo used to work. has anyone asked her for comment?"


    my question is- has any one questioned her( this teri wicker) ethics?
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  3. Feb 29, '12 by
    Since Amanda is criticized for the way and the intials after her name. Why is this person allowed to change credentials


    Ray Kronenbitter, RN, MSN, PCCN
    Director of Governmental Affairs
    Arizona Nurses Association

    The RN,MSN designation is the same degree as Amanda's neither are students in a master's of nursing program, Both have completed and earned the Masters degree. The PCCN designation is a certification in critical care nursing- CCRN is - critical care nursing(ICU,CCU, MICU,SICU - spending x number of hours in a certain amount of time practicing in that area of nursing and taking a American Association of Critical Care Nurses certifiction exam- don't have to be a BSN, MSN or DNS. Do have to be an RN. PCCN is the Progressive Care certification- stepdown, telemetry- again don't have to be a BSN, MSN or DNS, do have to be an RN)

    This same person above in another letter signed their name
    Ray Kronenbitter, RN, MN,FAAN. no 'S' for Science, and FAAN designating a fellowship)
    Director of Governmental Affairs
    Arizona Nurses Association

    I believe Amanda signed her name correctly Amanda MSN, RN. and the person above has incorrectly signed their credentials. - as the degree is supposed to be before the license( MSN,RN) indicating that you can take someone's license from them, but you cannot take their educational degree from them.
    Just a thought.
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  4. Feb 29, '12 by
    Since Amanda is criticized for the way and the intials after her name. Why is this person allowed to change credentials


    Ray Kronenbitter, RN, MSN, PCCN
    Director of Governmental Affairs
    Arizona Nurses Association

    The RN,MSN designation is the same degree as Amanda's neither are students in a master's of nursing program, Both have completed and earned the Masters degree. The PCCN designation is a certification in critical care nursing- CCRN is - critical care nursing(ICU,CCU, MICU,SICU - spending x number of hours in a certain amount of time practicing in that area of nursing and taking a American Association of Critical Care Nurses certifiction exam- don't have to be a BSN, MSN or DNS. Do have to be an RN. PCCN is the Progressive Care certification- stepdown, telemetry- again don't have to be a BSN, MSN or DNS, do have to be an RN)

    This same person above in another letter signed their name
    Ray Kronenbitter, RN, MN,FAAN. no 'S' for Science, and FAAN designating a fellowship)
    Director of Governmental Affairs
    Arizona Nurses Association

    I believe Amanda signed her name correctly Amanda MSN, RN. and the person above has incorrectly signed their credentials. - as the degree is supposed to be before the license( MSN,RN) indicating that you can take someone's license from them, but you cannot take their educational degree from them.
    Just a thought. and My 2cents
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  5. Apr 1, '12 by
    I found a website relating to this nurse and the author posted a link to "Notice of Charges". I read through the whole Notice of Charges and my mouth dropped.

    According to the "Notice of Charges" Ms. Trujillo has been using DNSc NP behind her name, but she has never graduated from a DNSc program and is not a licensed NP in Arizona. It also states that Ms. Trujillo is not eligible for rehire at Mayo Clinic and Mountain Vista Medical Center.

    Also, according to the "Notice of Charges" "Respondent practiced outside her scope when she ordered a “case management social service consult” for patient D.F. requesting a “home hospice evaluation.” Respondent documented that the ordering physician was Dr. Pedro R. Rodriguez. On or about January 13, 2012, Respondent admitted to Board staff during interview that Respondent had not spoken to Dr. Rodriquez or any other physician, and did not have a verbal or telephone order from Dr. Rodriquez authorizing a consult order to evaluate patient D.F. for hospice."

    So she admitted to placing an order without authorization.

    I found the link to the Notice of Charges on this blog site:

    Documentation from the AZ BoN on Amanda Trujillo » Not Nurse Ratched

    (the link to the Notice of Charges is under the first paragraph)
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  6. Apr 1, '12 by
    Quote from dingoRN
    I found a website relating to this nurse and the author posted a link to "Notice of Charges". I read through the whole Notice of Charges and my mouth dropped.

    According to the "Notice of Charges" Ms. Trujillo has been using DNSc NP behind her name, but she has never graduated from a DNSc program and is not a licensed NP in Arizona. It also states that Ms. Trujillo is not eligible for rehire at Mayo Clinic and Mountain Vista Medical Center.

    Also, according to the "Notice of Charges" "Respondent practiced outside her scope when she ordered a “case management social service consult” for patient D.F. requesting a “home hospice evaluation.” Respondent documented that the ordering physician was Dr. Pedro R. Rodriguez. On or about January 13, 2012, Respondent admitted to Board staff during interview that Respondent had not spoken to Dr. Rodriquez or any other physician, and did not have a verbal or telephone order from Dr. Rodriquez authorizing a consult order to evaluate patient D.F. for hospice."

    So she admitted to placing an order without authorization.

    I found the link to the Notice of Charges on this blog site:

    Documentation from the AZ BoN on Amanda Trujillo » Not Nurse Ratched

    (the link to the Notice of Charges is under the first paragraph)
    I found the same link. I encourage everyone to read the actual charges from the BON... quite a different story.
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    Apr 2, '12 by
    When I first read Amanda Truijillo's letter, I was skeptical did not have enough information to be supportive of her, after reading the BONs charges, I am convinced, she is a loose cannon and needs intervention.
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  8. Apr 2, '12 by
    We need to remember that charges are not convictions. Innocent till proven guilty.
    Quote from KelRN215
    I found the same link. I encourage everyone to read the actual charges from the BON... quite a different story.
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  9. Apr 2, '12 by
    This is a GREAT example of why I don't believe peoples posts on this board when they say I got fired but I didn't do anything wrong. To get in this kind of trouble 99 times out of a 100 the nurse was probably in the wrong.
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  10. Apr 2, '12 by
    and what experience do you base this on?
    Quote from LynnLRN
    This is a GREAT example of why I don't believe peoples posts on this board when they say I got fired but I didn't do anything wrong. To get in this kind of trouble 99 times out of a 100 the nurse was probably in the wrong.
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