Another tragic MLK story: hospital suspends nurse after pt death - page 2

ap/yahoo!, jan. 10, 2005 los angeles hospital suspends nurse after death a patient died at the troubled martin luther king jr./drew medical center after an icu nurse ignored her worsening... Read More

  1. by   debx
    I thought California has the Nurse-Patient Ratio law??? Did it not apply here?
  2. by   DRIVERRN
    Where were the doctors?
  3. by   pickledpepperRN
    Quote from debx
    I thought California has the Nurse-Patient Ratio law??? Did it not apply here?
    I think the hospital administration continues to violate the law.
  4. by   DRIVERRN
    From what I have seen in the past from owned experience and what my children tell me(one is on OR RN and the other a fellow in cardiology) the mess created by making health care a "business" instead of caring for the ill altruistically, our system is failing and money will be made no matter what unless the ones left with a conscience step away. Making yourself a sacrificial lamb does not help. Running hospitals without nurses is impossible. If more nurses said "I am quitting because your hospital is not safe" and sought other employment, the situation would quit festering and come to a head. When the bleeding stopped the pendulum would swing the other way again. I do not consider walking away a form of patient abandonment as the hospitals use as a threat. If it is in writing with patient safety the ultimate goal and brought to the media for play, a public resignation letter, so patients can help by avoiding unsafe hospitals, the "jig" would be up. Nurses were just surveyed to be trusted most of all professions. People would listen if we were not so afraid of losing the paycheck. Remain part of the problem or become the solution. You are probably wondering what part I am playing? I inform all my clients of bad behavior by hopsitals and doctors as their advocate so they can make informed choices about where they seek health care. I tell stories and let them know what is happening in other places too and urge them to contact lawmakers for assist. Yes, we talk politics. It is still a democracy and we still have free speech. Mostly I listen and try to help with what I can via pressure to the healthcare provider as their advocate.
  5. by   Tweety
    Quote from mattsmom81
    They will just blame the nurses like they always do.

    Yep. Suspend the nurse and don't look at the root of the problem. :angryfire
  6. by   Tweety
    Quote from debx
    I thought California has the Nurse-Patient Ratio law??? Did it not apply here?
    The governor, caving into pressure from big business suspended the ratio law and it has not taken effect that I know of.
  7. by   Tweety
    Quote from stbernardclub
    OK, we all understand that this hospital is wrong, but my question is why would a nurse take a assignment that she is incabable of doing? eg: why are you watching a monitor that you cannnot understand? Why would you be in a intensive care unit if you cannot monitor vitals, read labs, follow physician orders?
    I agree, all angles need to be looked at. Including why a hospital would send an unqualified nurse into this area and why that nurse accepted the assignment. Bottom line that nurse is in deep do do for accepting that assignment, but I hope equally the administration gets in deep do do for assigning the nurse that assignment in the first place.
  8. by   DRIVERRN
    I remember when adminisstration at a place where I worked in OB decided we would float to ICU when not busy....we all said "NO"! We documented the reasons why we could not like they were sending us to a place we did no having training for and ICU was the dirtiest place in the hospital so we would have to completely shower before going into a delivery room and someone could DIE waiting for care. Nursing administration stood with us and that plan went to the trash. The chief OB-GYN stood with us as well. That was before CHAOS, which is what we have instead of collaboration from the top to the bottom all for the better care of patients. It will take some strong and willful nurses to fix this problem but I'm afraid Florence N. is long gone. Remember when you got your pin and cap and you siad the pledge she wrote? Remember"Do no harm"?
  9. by   *PICURN*
    Quote from oncbsnrn
    For the most part, we are a group of bright and highly competant nurses. However, there are nurses who don't practice safely. If this article is accurate, some of these practices are not because of nurse patient ratio's or being overworked, they are because this nurse did not give a damn! For example:

    "Alarms on the patient's vital-signs monitor were either turned off or lowered before she died Nov. 18" and....

    allegedly failed for nine hours to request blood for a transfusion, and.....

    She also falsified records to indicate she had checked the woman's vital signs, by obtaining the patient's file after her death, inserting notes, and then lying about doing so and her co-worker......

    a different intensive care nurse turned down the audio alarm on a 28-year-old man's monitor and then failed to notice the patient's heart was barely beating, officials said. That nurse is accused of falsifying the patient's medical records and indicating he was stable more than an hour after he died.
    Yeeeeah I definately agree with you. IT IS THE NURSE'S FAULT!!!! You can't blame the hospital for that one. That nurse should be suspended

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