Another Article About the "Nursing Shortage"

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    Here is a news article and video about how the nursing shortage is affecting nurses at the bedside. Suzanne Gordon, a nurse and author of several books, tries to bring awareness to the public about the role of nursing. How long before hospital administrators see the light?
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    In my opinion, the top administrators can't or won't see the writing on the wall because many of them are making more base salary and perks than the president of the U.S. They're concerned about relating to and staying within their circle of friends and acquaintances. They also lobby or provide highly paid lobbyists to rail against changing and improving the status quo as far as staff at the bedside. They said its attributable to the unreasonable reimbursement rates paid by health plans which I acknowledge is a problem but that's just a piece of the problem. That's not the real reason for the nursing shortage, however.
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    There's no true nursing shortage, since nearly 500,000 nurses with active licensure are doing things other than securing employment in the healthcare field. There is, however, a shortage of nurses who are willing to work under abusive conditions at the bedside without the appropriate amount of pay and respect.
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    Quote from TheCommuter
    There's no true nursing shortage, since nearly 500,000 nurses with active licensure are doing things other than securing employment in the healthcare field. There is, however, a shortage of nurses who are willing to work under abusive conditions at the bedside without the appropriate amount of pay and respect.
    Agreed! While there are areas of the US that have legitimate shortages, there are plenty of areas (as one can see from reading this board), mostly the more popular and desirable areas to live, where the market is saturated and even experienced nurses have a hard time finding jobs.
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    It seems to me that the news media has really latched on to this issue of the 'nursing shortage' because it makes a good story and makes thier ratings go up.

    But they really aren't telling the whole story......like the fact that there really isn't a shortage of nurses, just a shortage of nurses willing to put up with dangerous working conditions.
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    I don't think there is Really a Nursing shortage in US. Because if there has one, they should be importing lots of Nurses from different countries.
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    There is definitely a shortage of nurses here in Canada, with a projected 6000 eligible for retirement in the next 5 years, and only 1200 per year graduating from school, assuming they all stay in Alberta when they finish, they will barely cover those exiting. Everywhere I work or have worked, they are closing beds, working doubles, no days off, can't get vacation time, work when they have tried to call sick, managers are pulling shifts. I agree that many have left the bedside due to these conditions, am thinking of doing that myself. But once I am gone I don't think I would want to return to see if it improved either.
    I think that as women get smarter and have more options, fewer and fewer will choose nursing as a career, IMHO.
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    Hearing about the shortage makes me so mad. I would give anything to get into nursing school and become a nurse, but it's so hard to get into the program at my school!

    If nurses are in such a dire need, why are there only 50 (for example) spots open, when there are over 200 applicants? Not enough nursing teachers? Then encourage THAT!

    Everyone and their twin sister seems to be getting into nursing around here. I sometimes fail to see where this "shortage" is.
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    " If nurses are in such a dire need, why are there only 50 (for example) spots open, when there are over 200 applicants? Not enough nursing teachers? Then encourage THAT!"

    Two parts of the difficulty with instructors (leading to the difficulty training nurses) are 1. Teachers unions, and 2. Clinical instruction.

    1. Public institutions cannot pay nursing instructors the salaries they should fetch, because, due to union contracts, they would then be required to raise every instructor's salary (let's pay an a failed pizza delivery dude with a masters in English makeing minimum wage the same salary as a masters trained nurse with 20+ years experience bringing home 100k+ at her previous job!)

    2. I would have to go back to the board of nurses website, but I think that Oregon requires 1 instuctor per 9 nursing students (the rumor is that they want to bump it downt to 1:7....hmmm....job security anyone?).
    What needs to happen is- give a 5% raise to floor nurses who become trained preceptors. We could train nurses from here to kingdom come!....
    Comments?
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    Quote from stephenfnielsen
    " If nurses are in such a dire need, why are there only 50 (for example) spots open, when there are over 200 applicants? Not enough nursing teachers? Then encourage THAT!"

    Two parts of the difficulty with instructors (leading to the difficulty training nurses) are 1. Teachers unions, and 2. Clinical instruction.

    1. Public institutions cannot pay nursing instructors the salaries they should fetch, because, due to union contracts, they would then be required to raise every instructor's salary (let's pay an a failed pizza delivery dude with a masters in English makeing minimum wage the same salary as a masters trained nurse with 20+ years experience bringing home 100k+ at her previous job!)

    2. I would have to go back to the board of nurses website, but I think that Oregon requires 1 instuctor per 9 nursing students (the rumor is that they want to bump it downt to 1:7....hmmm....job security anyone?).
    What needs to happen is- give a 5% raise to floor nurses who become trained preceptors. We could train nurses from here to kingdom come!....
    Comments?
    I live and have taught nursing in a Southern non-union state, where there's no such thing as a teachers' union, and there's just as much trouble recruiting nursing faculty here as anywhere else. This is the first time in my entire (lengthy) career in nursing that I've ever heard anyone suggest "unions" as the problem.


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