ANA Issues Statement on Schiavo Case - page 3

The American Nurses Association (ANA) has released a statement on the case of Terri Schiavo, the 41-year-old brain-damaged Florida woman who died March 31, which was almost 2 weeks after the removal... Read More

  1. by   jnette
    Quote from mjlrn97
    Uh.......excuse me, but the last time I checked, you didn't have to agree with the ANA---or even be a member---to be a nurse. :stone

    Sheesh.

    Go Marla !

    Heh.

    Yeh.. I'm with Marla and Steph on this.. wouldn't it be sad if we all felt the same on all issues at all times? Thought so.

    As I had mentioned on the "other thread".. even extreme liberal, left-leaning Germany ..on all social matters.. was appalled by this. There, too, a feeding tube is not considered "heroic measures".

    Tweety.. is it not one thing to choose not to have one inserted from the get go (in our advance direcetive), but quite another to have one inserted for many years, and THEN just say "ok.. time's up! That's all you get.. it's over.. ALL GONE "

    Still have very mixed feelings about all this, just as many of us do. I don't think this discussion will end for some time.. at least it's making us think.
  2. by   Tweety
    Tweety.. is it not one thing to choose not to have one inserted from the get go (in our advance direcetive), but quite another to have one inserted for many years, and THEN just say "ok.. time's up! That's all you get.. it's over.. ALL GONE "


    Jnette, I know, I know. However sometimes tubes get inserted for interum treatment, while hoping for a miracle, or during a period when it's unsure of what the outcome can be, or sometimes people just come to their senses after they've subjected a loved one to a tube. I've seen that. Again, tubes are disconnected all the time. There does come a time when it is o.k. to say "times up, that's all you get, it's over (meaning I'm sorry I put you through this suffering, you're suffering will end now) ..." with love and compassion of course. Of course, I'm talking severely brain damaged persons in pvs. But again, I defer to the over 1000 posts on this topic, so let's not beat a dead horse. (We're not going to change our minds by now)
  3. by   sbic56
    I was pleasantly suprised by the ANA's statement. They were right on this time.
  4. by   DeeBeeRN
    ANA's so-called position statement is down right goulish, inappropriate, off the mark, biased and left wing. How dare those so-called Nurses (my fanny) think they speak for the thousands of Nurses who were against this court ordered and sanctioned murder of a vulnerable, handicapped, helpless, and used woman. I will not support ANA with not one of my hard earned dimes...period. One other thing, just who does ANA think the courts are if not the a branch of the government. Upon issuance of that inane position statement...ANA's credibility took a nose dive right into the toilet. Everyone involved in dissemination of that statement should be immediately fired! We are Nurses and do not follow blindly.
  5. by   callbabe
    Quote from kitty=^..^=cat
    I think the ANA statement is right-on!!

    A previous post mentioned that the ANA statement is "left-wing" -- I don't think so. The statement is right in the middle of where it needs to be!!!!!
    I think the ANA statement is right. After all we are suppose to be the patients advocate. We are suppose to support the pt, and their families no matter what.
    This is what we do. Apparently, a large majority of nurses do it extremely well, otherwise there wouldn,t be so much conflict over pt care. The ones that don't care don't have any problems,and there pts probably suffer.The bottom line is that life and death are natural processes, and we as nurses are suppose to try to improve life when we can and support the family when we can't.
  6. by   kitty=^..^=cat
    I feel that professional nurses have an obligation to be open-minded, tolerant and supportive of our current laws, whether or not you agree on a personal basis. The ANA has taken the only possible stance that a professional organization could take in this situation.
  7. by   DeeBeeRN
    Life and Death are natural processes...there we agree. Murder is not a natural process.
  8. by   Tweety
    I think you need to be respectful of others whose opinions are different than yours. You've very clearly stated your position. No one flamed you for it. As a courtesy you should offer the same respect in return, with snide comments that border on personal attacks. It's a touchy issue and has brought out some passions, I understand that. So far we've had over 1000 posts that ran the gamut of opinions.
    Last edit by NRSKarenRN on Apr 10, '05 : Reason: response removed post
  9. by   sbic56
    DeeBeeRN has an agenda...first 3 posts to allnurses all inflammatory and provocative....hmmmm
  10. by   Tweety
    We really shouldn't cross-talk about a member, but the first post was expressing an opinion about the subject, a passionate one at that, which is o.k. So I give the benefit of the doubt. However, we all must allow for the fact that in such matters, while it's cut and dry for us, others feel differently. :hatparty:
    Last edit by NRSKarenRN on Apr 10, '05
  11. by   ValerieB
    Quote from Tweety
    I think you need to be respectful of others whose opinions are different than yours. You've very clearly stated your position. No one flamed you for it. As a courtesy you should offer the same respect in return, with snide comments that border on personal attacks. It's a touchy issue and has brought out some passions, I understand that. So far we've had over 1000 posts that ran the gamut of opinions.
    I gree with Tweety. As nurses, we see and hear things throughout our careers that make us all cringe, but we need to be professional. There were so many opinions regarding Terri's case that made me cringe and disagree. I learned one big thing and that was I can't believe everything I read and hear about this case. I believe Terri is in a better place where she's not being hassled by the media. This is a very touchy subject and we are all passionate about our opinions and that's why we live in America where we have the right to express them. I hope that more people have living wills and talk to their families before a catastrophic event happens to them.
  12. by   Spidey's mom
    The fact that Terri is in a better place doesn't change the fact that the way she got there bothers some of us "professional nurses" who are also "idiot right to lifers". And that some of us disagree with the ANA statement. And we are still professional nurses. And not idiots.

    There were just as many right-to-die folks involved in this widely publicized case.

    steph
  13. by   ValerieB
    Quote from stevielynn
    The fact that Terri is in a better place doesn't change the fact that the way she got there bothers some of us "professional nurses" who are also "idiot right to lifers". And that some of us disagree with the ANA statement. And we are still professional nurses. And not idiots.

    There were just as many right-to-die folks involved in this widely publicized case.

    steph
    We are all entitled to our opinions.

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