21 y.o. survives - barely

  1. Dany Bureau, 21, and his father, Robert, from Gatineau, can't believe the ordeal they went through to get Dany's appendicitis taken care of. It was 28 hours before surgery was performed in Montreal. Dany's appendix had burst, a complication that required a longer hospital stay.
    The Ottawa Citizen 2007
    Last edit by sirI on Oct 23, '07 : Reason: edited for copyright purposes
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  2. 22 Comments

  3. by   happydays352
    Is there a link to this article I would love to read the whole thing.
    Thanks for sharing.
  4. by   HM2VikingRN
    overcrowding of emergency rooms in canada is increasingly mirrored by the
    same problem in the united states, though underreported in this country.
    physicians at the los angeles county–usc medical center have testified
    that some emergency room patients can wait up to four days for a bed and
    that others may die before receiving care (17). of the millions of americans
    crowding u.s. emergency rooms, many have problems that could have been
    prevented by earlier care; they end up being charged the highest rates for
    emergency care, then are released with often inadequate follow-up care (18).
    source: http://pnhp.org/facts/myths_memes.pdf

    our non-system is not immune from similar problems.
  5. by   HM2VikingRN
    17. Weber, T., and Ornstein, C. County USC doctors say delays fatal.
    [FONT=TimesNewRoman-NormalItalic]Los Angeles Times,

    April 23, 2003.
    18. Derlet, R. W. Trends in the use and capacity of California’s emergency departments,
    1990–1999.
    [FONT=TimesNewRoman-NormalItalic]Ann. Emerg. Med. 39: 430, 2002.
    19. Tuohy, C., et al.
    [FONT=TimesNewRoman-NormalItalic]How Does Private Finance Affect Public Health Care Systems?
    Marshalling the Evidence from OECD Systems.
    Canadian Health Economics
    Research Association, Toronto, May 2001.
    20. Center for Studying Health System Change. Press release. Washington, D.C.,
    September 5, 2002.
    21. Rachlis, M., et al.
    [FONT=TimesNewRoman-NormalItalic]Revitalizing Medicare: Shared Problems, Public Solutions, p. 25.

    Tommy Douglas Research Institute, Vancouver, January 2001.
  6. by   HM2VikingRN
    americans with above-average incomes have more access problems
    than patients in canada, the united kingdom, australia, and new zealand
    (figure 1) (15).
    http://pnhp.org/facts/myths_memes.pdf

    i think its important to talk about system issues using referenced sources based on academic research.
    Last edit by HM2VikingRN on Oct 23, '07
  7. by   happydays352
    Absolutely
  8. by   CRNA2007
    so how does giving everyone health care solve this problem? Do you really think people using the ER now for primary care won't do it in the future? The ER is full of people that already get free healthcare paid for by the hard working taxpayers of this country. Wanna eliminate needless abuse of the emergency rooms put on a hefty co pay for non emergencies.
  9. by   HM2VikingRN
    Of the millions of Americans crowding U.S. emergency rooms, many have problems that could have been prevented by earlier care;

    op cit.
  10. by   Crux1024
    Heres the link to the original article:

    http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/...f961b6&k=15068
  11. by   shannonFNP
    I'm in nursing school, I had to go PRN from my full time position at my hospital so I lost my benefits. You bet your ass that I would love some free healthcare right about now for my cardiac and gynecology issues. Please don't pool the persons with inability to pay as "alreadying getting free healthcare paid for by the hard working taxpayers of this country." It's offensive. I'm hardworking, Im employed, and go to class and still there are FAR more people that juggle more than I do. So yes, the answer to your question "would free healthcare help" is HELL YES, a little break from the government would go miles for me. You know... to help prevent a heart attack at the extreme. It's unfortunate that I have no insurance because I don't have the MONEY to pay an HMO. I understand the abuse that some people make of the ER, but please choose your words carefully before making such a hasty reply.
  12. by   TRAMA1RN
    I am an ER nurse, all patients that do receive medical assistance should be required to have their co pays automatically deducted from their next welfare check or e-deposit or however their state handles it for them. Also if you still smoke don't come crying to me that you can't afford your Tylenol or other RX. even with my RX plan I pay $80.00 for a generic rx and I have to get mail order which is a pain. I work in health care for crying out loud. Most people do abuse the ER, if you see you family MD and continue with a good relationship most MD do work with their patients to help with billing by waiving or decreasing fees and giving samples so don't give me that excuse, we speak of this often.
  13. by   FireStarterRN
    I knew a lady whose appendix ruptured because the doctor was an idiot and sent her home. Just thought I'd mention that. She ended up a week in the hospital and I was the one to breastfeed her baby because it wouldn't take a bottle.
  14. by   caroladybelle
    I have a 18 y/o second cousin, admitted to a US (Florida) hospital, that had a similar problem. He was in the hospital for close to a week, before his parents demanded a different MD. The new MD immediately ordered surgery - they went in and found that appendix had perforated probably within 48 hours. His recovery was seriously delayed d/t peritonitis, something that could have been easily prevented.

    This is a problem in many countries, not just Canada.

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