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No. 10
from Katnip
Old May 26, 2008, 10:00 AM

Default Re: Staff RN's earn more than Nurse Manager?!
Originally Posted by SteveRN21 View Post
Exactly.... you don't make the weekend, night and holiday differentials because you DON'T have to work nights, weekends and holidays like RNs do.....

IMHO, I avoid overtime. I was mandated by my last job to take 3 12-hr call shifts every 6-week schedule, and ALWAYS got called in. I had no choice but to come in, while getting paid OT.
Managers work OT. I'm often here 3-5 hours later than what I get paid for because of one crisis or another. I'm called at home at all hours for some very simple things that the staff should have been able to handle themselves or turned over to the house supervisor.

And at my place, managers DO have to work holidays. I'm here at work now on a holiday. We are expected to have at least one manager working as house supervisor on each holiday. We do not get paid time and a half. We don't get paid for taking the holiday off unless we use our vacation time. And in a crisis we HAVE to come in at night or weekends.

My base pay started $.50 more than my pay as a staff nurse. I also got paid shift diff and charge pay. I just now managed to get a raise that takes me a tiny bit more than I was making as charge.

There aren't many benefits to being a manager. It's just that if the job suits your skills and personality better, then it can be a better fit than bedside.
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No. 11
from SteveRN21
Old Jun 02, 2008, 08:55 AM

Default Re: Staff RN's earn more than Nurse Manager?!
That's too bad that they make you work holidays....

I'm pretty sure I didn't see any management other than the house supervisor for a few shifts around Christmas, New Year's, Easter, Memorial Day, July 4th, Labor Day, MLK Jr Day and Thanksgiving. Not to mention Mother's Day, Valentine's Day, etc....

Sorry if I sound cynical. I went from an excellent Magnet facility with one manager who cared to a huge hospital with 6 backstabbing managers.

Case in point: I made sure when I was hired I could work primarily weekends to accommodate school. He said fine. We are required to work 26 weekends a year. So I requested that I work only one weekend this month, as I am off school, and have already put in around 18 weekends. (1 measly weekend off) He says, "oh no.... you made a special request to work those weekends, and I did you a favor by allowing you to work extra weekends. Those don't count. You still need to work your 2 weekends a month."

You just wait and see if I stay a second longer than I need to in this job.....
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No. 12
from Katnip
Old Jun 10, 2008, 11:54 AM

Default Re: Staff RN's earn more than Nurse Manager?!
Originally Posted by SteveRN21 View Post
That's too bad that they make you work holidays....

I'm pretty sure I didn't see any management other than the house supervisor for a few shifts around Christmas, New Year's, Easter, Memorial Day, July 4th, Labor Day, MLK Jr Day and Thanksgiving. Not to mention Mother's Day, Valentine's Day, etc....

Sorry if I sound cynical. I went from an excellent Magnet facility with one manager who cared to a huge hospital with 6 backstabbing managers.

Case in point: I made sure when I was hired I could work primarily weekends to accommodate school. He said fine. We are required to work 26 weekends a year. So I requested that I work only one weekend this month, as I am off school, and have already put in around 18 weekends. (1 measly weekend off) He says, "oh no.... you made a special request to work those weekends, and I did you a favor by allowing you to work extra weekends. Those don't count. You still need to work your 2 weekends a month."

You just wait and see if I stay a second longer than I need to in this job.....
I don't blame you a bit for that. Always, always get things in writing. We're having difficulty here with things like that. But in our case, the staff just sort of changed their schedules to accomodate their own needs, while leaving huge gaps in the schedule where none should be. This went on for years before I started here, now it's our job to straighten out the mess. And it is a mess. I need two nurses per shift. Sometimes I get 6, and other days none. And people are screaming about it because it's been their way for so long.

But I do digress. I love the staff on my unit. Most are extremely responsible and competent. A few need some improvement. But as a manager, I really do make less than I did before. And didn't know when I was hired as manager that I'd have to work holidays. Heck I have to give 30 days notice if I want time off. That was fun when my washing machine broke.

You can bet, if I don't go back to bedside and look for another place, I know what questions to ask up front.
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