Previous felony convictions, 1400 percent increase! - page 2

Many state nursing boards are reporting a 1400 percent increase in previous felony convictions among nurses applying for nursing licenses since 1992. Is this just a sign of the times? Boundary... Read More

  1. Visit  whichone'spink profile page
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    Okay, not all felony convictions are drug related. Some could be far worse than just drug offenses. Would you want a violent person or a pedophile to take care of your loved one?
  2. Visit  Otessa profile page
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    Quote from BabyLady
    Your legal rights are drastically different when appying for school vs applying for a job or licensure.

    In many nursing programs (such as mine), the school has a policy that admission practices for one program cannot be different from another. In other words, if you do background checks for nursing, you would have to do it for education, etc. Therefore, they do not.

    The law changed the year I graduated, nursing students are now required to have background checks because the surrounding hospitals required it of all students before attending clinical experiences.

    To me, if you have been convicted of ANY crime, you need to do a substantial amount of research before you choose a profession that a background check is pretty much guaranteed before you are offered a job. It is not the school's responsibility, it is that of a student's. Its not like they "forgot" that they went to court and got a conviction....cracks me up every time I hear someone make that claim.

    However, recent past behavior is a good indicator of future behavior. We had a girl in my class that actually got a felony removed from her record FOR THE PURPOSE of being able to attend nursing school by the court. However, she had an issue with anger management and got into another fight, therefore, another conviction, during nursing school. That pretty much sealed her fate with regards to my school. To me, she got what she deserved.
    Always good to be honest about past 'problems'. That last student sure was interesting.
  3. Visit  martinalpn profile page
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    Nobodies perfect. We all have had lapses in judgement some of us may never have gotten caught but we are just as guilty it should be one set standard but also take into account different mitigating factors our school had you do a background check because you were required for clinicals. I wouldn't want to be able to take classes pass and still unable to get a license and consider the fact that many practices we have that companies have that are unsafe that are considered the norm esp ltc but do we jail those employers
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  4. Visit  NRSKarenRN profile page
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    only one board of nursing has documented % of increase felony convictions: arizona

    i. introduction and background
    the board has seen an increase in the number of individuals with criminal backgrounds who are applying for licensure and certification or who have been convicted of felonies and misdemeanors while they hold an active license or certificate. in 1995, the board received only 4 applications with disclosures of felony convictions. during 1996-1997, the board received 4-5 applications per month, or approximately 60 applications per year, with disclosures of felony convictions. these numbers reflect a 1400% increase in the number of applicants withdisclosures of felony convictions.
    arizona state board of nursing guidelines for criminal conduct

    shaking my crystal ball, i see contributing to the increase in disclosures:

    a. advent of internet + use of computer databases -- able hide in paper records days.
    b. federal legislation omnibus budget reconciliation act of 1987 (obra '87), landmark legislation for federal standards for nursing home care requiring criminal background checks for those working in skilled nursing facilities and home health.
    c. certification of nursing assistants increasing number applicants
    d. increased population moving to az
    e.development of national council of state boards of nursing created framework with bon sharing information, especially 2005 position paper that all boards should conduct criminal background checks on applicants as means protecting public.
    f. criminals tired of living in cold climates

    Last edit by NRSKarenRN on Jun 3, '11
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  5. Visit  Jordan4600 profile page
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    Seriously people? I hope non of you judgemental bigots ever treat me. People make mistakes. People mess up, we are human. I came to this forum out of a search for employment for felons in this field to find if there was any hope. And all I see if a bunch of ignorant people lashing out about how they would never want a felon to work in this field. How they should never be able to. Yes some are sicker than others and I understand not wanting a pedophile working in the pediatrics unit, but how can you seriously lump us all together. Are you that naive? Most other countries have already begun in rehabilitation instead of jails. We are so behind. I messed up when I was 19, and 20. Should I really be held accountable for all my life for some stupid decisions I made as a young adult? Especially since the first one was made to save someone's life. I called 911 to get help and was arrested. I was in the wrong i admit. But serously. I can't believe the hostility on here. So please try to keep an open mind and realize we are not all the same, it goes case by case.
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  6. Visit  jadelpn profile page
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    Quote from bagladyrn
    I'd love to see the statistics as to what percentage of these grads went to "private" (High cost) programs. I'd bet the schools really don't have any concern whether or not the grad can get licensed as long as they've already gotten their money.
    Amen to that. There are multiple for profit schools that will take your money gladly, students who get into great financial debt, only to find out at clinical time that they can not participate. And by the time one's clinicals roll around, you have invested a great deal of time on a nursing course of study. To then essentially start over with something else at....well....more tuition funds or loans.
  7. Visit  jadelpn profile page
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    Quote from Jordan4600
    Seriously people? I hope non of you judgemental bigots ever treat me. People make mistakes. People mess up, we are human. I came to this forum out of a search for employment for felons in this field to find if there was any hope. And all I see if a bunch of ignorant people lashing out about how they would never want a felon to work in this field. How they should never be able to. Yes some are sicker than others and I understand not wanting a pedophile working in the pediatrics unit, but how can you seriously lump us all together. Are you that naive? Most other countries have already begun in rehabilitation instead of jails. We are so behind. I messed up when I was 19, and 20. Should I really be held accountable for all my life for some stupid decisions I made as a young adult? Especially since the first one was made to save someone's life. I called 911 to get help and was arrested. I was in the wrong i admit. But serously. I can't believe the hostility on here. So please try to keep an open mind and realize we are not all the same, it goes case by case.
    A lapse in judgement when one is a young adult happens. Unfortunetely, some of those things could prevent one from becoming a licensed nurse. However, if this is the case, it should be spoken about beforehand, as opposed to when someone has paid dearly for a college education that may not be worth the paper it is printed on. And most can't afford to "wait and see" what the BON or the clinical site will say when the time comes.
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  8. Visit  PurpleLover profile page
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    You have to pass a criminal background cgeck before attending the nursing school.

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  10. Visit  krisiepoo profile page
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    We had to have (and pay for ourselves of course) an extensive background check for school and THEN once a year after that to prove we were still safe to work at the hospitals. I'm surprised so many get through, however when did they start background checks? Are they required now (or since a date within that time period)?
  11. Visit  JustBeachyNurse profile page
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    Background checks started being mandated of those working in home health, hospice & LTC in 1987. Hospitals and other health care facilities started requiring them within the following 5 years.

    Students, therefore, also had to clear background checks before clinical rotations.

    There are a few felonies that are absolutely no chance of working in healthcare: insurance /Medicare/Medicaid fraud, child abuse, elder abuse, murder, certain felony assault & battery, drug distribution (large quantities of controlled substances especially class I & II narcotics , not small amounts of pot), aggravated rape, child pornography, attempted murder.

    Other convictions may require stipulations & monitoring depending on the individual circumstances

    I think we can agree that those with the above convictions might be better suited for other career choices.
  12. Visit  CrossCountryRN2008 profile page
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    Quote from NRSKarenRN
    only one board of nursing has documented % of increase felony convictions: arizona

    shaking my crystal ball, i see contributing to the increase in disclosures:

    a. advent of internet + use of computer databases -- able hide in paper records days.
    b. federal legislation omnibus budget reconciliation act of 1987 (obra '87), landmark legislation for federal standards for nursing home care requiring criminal background checks for those working in skilled nursing facilities and home health.
    c. certification of nursing assistants increasing number applicants
    d. increased population moving to az
    e.development of national council of state boards of nursing created framework with bon sharing information, especially 2005 position paper that all boards should conduct criminal background checks on applicants as means protecting public.
    f. criminals tired of living in cold climates
    AZ is very strict. That is people applying not actually getting licensed. AZBON does long investigations. Also to work in AZ health care you have to get clearance cards and investigation every 6 years. That goes for teaching and in some counties bar workers
  13. Visit  Been there,done that profile page
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    Background checks , credit checks and re- checks on the drug screen. I was scheduled for a Arizona travel assignment, Passed the drug test 4 days before flying out and was required to provide another sample the day before leaving.

    Very clever that Mayo Clinic.

    There are plenty of available nurses.. why would a facility want to hire one with a proven history of financial, legal or emotional problems?


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