Pregnancy Discrimination - Interview - page 8

I have read more than a few threads on here and quite frankly I am a little appauled at the attitudes. No wonder women ask if they should hide the pregnancy! They're discriminated by female nursing... Read More

  1. Visit  BlueDevil,DNP profile page
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    I don't agree with your synopsis, and I'm very weary of this discussion. My intention was to provide an alternate point of view for the OP so as to help her make a sound choice. She has that view point and whatever will be will be. We shall have to agree to disagree and leave it at that.
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  3. Visit  redhead_NURSE98! profile page
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    Quote from BlueDevil,DNP
    I don't agree with your synopsis, and I'm very weary of this discussion. My intention was to provide an alternate point of view for the OP so as to help her make a sound choice. She has that view point and whatever will be will be. We shall have to agree to disagree and leave it at that.
    I like how even you know that what you did was illegal. You're weary of it because you don't really have much of a defense for it. And you being a parent of 7 children makes it that much more disgraceful.

    You've kind of changed my mind on having kids, because if I find out where you work I'm gonna get pregnant and apply for a job so they can fire me and I can make some quick cash.
  4. Visit  redhead_NURSE98! profile page
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    Quote from Lynx25
    Unless my reading skills are off, BlueDevil is, in fact, NOT the daddy. S/he is not responsible for:

    A) Making the baby
    B) Making the woman choose to conceal something that's quite related to their job
    Uh, it's ILLEGAL to do what was supposedly done, it's NOT related to their job, and no one's required to tell about their pregnancy. They can be big as a beach ball and if they can do the job they still don't have to ADMIT they're pregnant until they're requesting medical leave for it, and there's STILL nothing that can legally be done about it if they meet the criteria for leave.

    Seriously, are you a man? I'm childless by choice and I'm awfully jaded about baby babble and treating pregnant women with kid gloves, and I'm still quite disgusted about what was supposedly done.
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  5. Visit  Art_Vandelay profile page
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    I would be curious if BlueDevil were sitting in the witness stand, would s/he hold up his "high standards" and tell the truth about the reason for firing her, or lie to salvage his professional livelihood. I would venture that he would not tell the truth(as has already taken place). I find it hypocritical and ironic that he manifested a characteristic which he claimed to loath.


    Some interesting articles...

    Pregnancy discrimination lawsuits on the rise:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...d4S_story.html

    Another article, not specific to pregnancy but also those assuming caregiver role:
    Unlawful Discrimination Based on Pregnancy and Caregiving Responsibilities Widespread Problem, Panelists Tell EEOC
  6. Visit  8mpg profile page
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    What do people expect? Hiring a pregnant woman is crazy and bad for business. If you hire someone that is due in 5 months and will be out for 2 months, you have staffing issues. The is even more of a problem at a small facility. The likelyhood of that nurse calling is sick with a newborn is higher than someone without. Allowing the nurse to have time to pump, etc....

    We just had 2 people out in my small ICU. THey both took 3 months off with all of their EIB (and one was a male nurse). With 6 fulltime spots per shift, we lost 17% of our staff for 25% of the year.
  7. Visit  netglow profile page
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    All true. Although not all pregnancy can be planned for eg you've had trouble starting a family, but then after a few years suddenly found yourself pregnant... it takes priority. You must never expect others to move heaven and earth for your situation. Pregnancy is an elective condition - you are expected to be an adult about your life choices and plan accordingly. Nursing is a very stressful job, not to mention physically exhausting for the best of us. Once you have graduated from school, you certainly know what's what. You also understand the job market is competitive.

    I've always known that you don't want to interview pregnant - this even for all the years since I graduated with my first degree. Who wants to have filled a position just to have to fill it again?

    Common sense people.
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  8. Visit  HollywoodDiva profile page
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    It is a female dominated field and everyone has to look at both sides of this dilemma.
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  9. Visit  redhead_NURSE98! profile page
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    Quote from whitey_fisk

    Some interesting articles...

    Pregnancy discrimination lawsuits on the rise:

    Workplace pregnancy discrimination cases on the rise - The Washington Post

    Another article, not specific to pregnancy but also those assuming caregiver role:
    Unlawful Discrimination Based on Pregnancy and Caregiving Responsibilities Widespread Problem, Panelists Tell EEOC

    And juries haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate employers, overall. I've seen some of the most obnoxious jury verdicts in my state for even tenuous discrimination cases (of all kinds: racial, age, gender, etc.)
  10. Visit  redhead_NURSE98! profile page
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    Quote from 8mpg
    What do people expect? Hiring a pregnant woman is crazy and bad for business. If you hire someone that is due in 5 months and will be out for 2 months, you have staffing issues. The is even more of a problem at a small facility. The likelyhood of that nurse calling is sick with a newborn is higher than someone without. Allowing the nurse to have time to pump, etc....

    We just had 2 people out in my small ICU. THey both took 3 months off with all of their EIB (and one was a male nurse). With 6 fulltime spots per shift, we lost 17% of our staff for 25% of the year.
    Silly me, I expect corporations to follow the law or suffer the consequences. What do you think float pools and PRN are for? What do you think agencies have been making hella $$$ off of for years?

    I'd expect your small facility to grow a brain and come up with a solution, or risk losing more %% of its workforce due to complaints of understaffing.
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  11. Visit  Art_Vandelay profile page
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    Quote from 8mpg
    What do people expect? Hiring a pregnant woman is crazy and bad for business...
    It's not crazy; maybe somewhat impractical from an employer's perspective, but not "crazy." And it is not "bad" for business...the patient will think no less of the nurse or company. It doesn't present a "bad" image. And the impractical becomes more practical if per diem employment.
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  12. Visit  Art_Vandelay profile page
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    Quote from redhead_NURSE98!
    And juries haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate employers, overall. I've seen some of the most obnoxious jury verdicts in my state for even tenuous discrimination cases (of all kinds: racial, age, gender, etc.)
    In some of discrimination cases, plantiffs were awarded LARGE amounts of back pay and compensation. Even companies like Verizon and Walmart have been charged(and lost). I read a case of a Walmart employee receiving around $150,000! I'm thinking that's more than Walmart hourly pay.
  13. Visit  Lil'mama profile page
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    That's unfortunate some of you work in a non supportive environment but we don't treat one another that way where I work. The moms to be get lots of help, those that are dealing with other family things have staff willing to swap schedules with them, those dealing with loss...we always keep those things in mind when making assignments.

    I recall a coworker that lost two family members back to back...one elderly and one unexpectedly and we were all sensitive to that and filled in as needed without hesitation. When she returned, she didn't get any of our end of life people for a few weeks. She didn't even have to ask.

    I wasn't a lazy pregnant nurse and didn't ask or expect any accommodation but co workers just did certain things for me. Even patients and family members were accommodating. Believe it or not other people are indeed sometimes joyous about other women's pregnancies whether they have children or not.

    As to disclosing the pregnancy...I did not but I was a rehire and they would have taken me regardless.
  14. Visit  MochaRN424 profile page
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    If you weren't showing I would go for it...but since you are...you probably know they won't say anything they probably would just guess and not call back. I remember that I received an email stating that they saw my application online and were informing me about an open house...If I wasn't already 6 months and starting to show at that point...I would have went and met some NM...


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