Discrimination Against ER Nurses?

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Good morning,

My name is Dave and I am a BSN, RN who has been a licensed RN for nearly two years. My goal after graduating was to place myself in an environment where I could gain the most well-rounded experience so I could then drill down into the area I would like to be in for the rest of my career or at least for the next several years prior to returning to school for my masters.

My career as an RN began in TN working on a cardiac tele unit but after a few months, I saw 9 nurses leave and I had 7 preceptors in a matter of just a few months. Nurses just kept leaving and I realized that I wasn't getting anywhere with regard to training, certifications, etc. I began applying for additional positions in the area and even some with the government that appeared to be exotic and exciting.

In the winter of 2012, I was offered an opportunity to live with the Navajo Indians and work at a level 3 trauma center in Gallup, NM with a 17K raise. I felt this was an opportunity of a lifetime. I mean really, who gets this kinds of opportunity after being out of school for less than a year? I felt very honored especially since I had surpassed applications sent by Native Americans who always have preference with these kind of positions. My experience in Gallup, NM was one I will never forget. There I received my ACLS, TNCC and ENPC. I made some wonderful friends and had an adventure of a lifetime.

The only downside was that Gallup was an extremely violent place where it is NOT illegal to be publicly drunk(Alcoholism is 550% above average) and the town itself is very violent, hence the need for a level 3 trauma center basically on the reservation. Gallup, NM is not a place to settle down and raise a family which always has been a goal of mine. In December of 2013, I decided to look elsewhere and began applying for ER positions in the Dallas, TX area.

Soon thereafter, I received an offer from one of the major hospital systems in Dallas with a signing bonus and relocation paid with an 18 month commitment. I also received another 15k raise. Needless to say, I jumped at the chance and moved to Dallas. Unfortunately, after only 6 days on the job, my contract was breached and a few months later, I felt it was a prudent decision to leave the position I was in due to poor work conditions, no breaks and no support. I have learned the hard way that signing bonuses and paid relocation are signs of a troubled department which this certainly was. I am still a rehire but I feel that it is now time to choose my focus for my MSN as I have had enough clinical experience to truly work on any med/surg, tele, or cardiac unit which are areas I have chosen for my focus in my MSN.

Currently, I am having extreme difficulty with hospital recruiters who state that I do not qualify for any med/surg, tele or cardiac positions because I have only worked in an ER yet each application I have sent meets minimum requirements listed. I even had one recruiter tell me that I meet the minimum but not the preferred and I will not have an interview because of that. I have yet to be able to get a single interview outside the ER. I am also finding out that some of these recruiters aren't nurses that are making these judgements. The fact of the matter is that I could work circles around most med/surg and tele nurses and my skill sets are, in some cases, far beyond the average nurse on these types of floors.

So my question is, "Am I being discriminated against?" and if so, who can I speak to about this? The latest claim of not being qualified has come from a hospital system with central recruiting. They have refused to provide me with specifics on how I am not qualified and will not let me speak to the recruiter who is making the claim. This is also a hospital system with more than 500 nursing positions to fill just in the Dallas, TX area alone. I feel the way I have been treated is discriminatory and I would like to hear other nurses opinions on this subject. I am absolutely qualified for the positions I have applied for. Is this just simply poor bad recruiters or am I being discriminated against?

Regards,

Dave

Specializes in ICU / PCU / Telemetry / Oncology.

Just my opinion for the OP after being on here a few years: a little humility and an open mind goes a long way to receiving and embracing some constructive advice. Coming out of the gate like a raging tiger when you hear something you don't want to hear is just plain counterproductive. There are lots of nurses on here with a wealth of experience whose goal is to help, and if you spend enough time reading MORE threads on here than just this one, you will start to see who the most helpful ones are.

BTW, just reading your first post I already knew your job hopping was a red flag. You need to stay put somewhere for a while. I don't like my current job but forced myself to stay for at least 2 years so that I can show some stability.

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Specializes in Psych ICU, addictions.

OP: you are not being discriminated against. First, being an ED nurse is not a protected class. Second, if they are looking for someone with a certain level of m/s or tele experience and you don't have it, it is perfectly legal for them to say to you, "sorry, but no." It's a frustrating job market. The surplus of both new and experienced nurses out there looking for work means that employers can cherry-pick to their heart's content. And they not be as willing to give you a chance to switch specialties when they have 50+ applications from nurses who have exactly the experience they are looking for and then some.

Also, your job hopping is a red flag to a lot of employers. Granted, if you get the interview you'd have a chance to explain why you left those jobs--the problem is getting that chance to explain. And again, it's back to the fact that you're competing against a lot of nurses without that red flag in their history. Nurse with solid employment history versus nurse bouncing from job to job...now, this is not to say that during the interview, the solid employment nurse will always turn out to be the better candidate than the job hopper. But the problem is: which candidate INITIALLY looks more appealing to the employer and will get that interview in the first place?

In addition, just because a job is posted doesn't necessarily mean there is an opening to be filled. As others have said, sometimes they have to post the opening so they can hire down the road. They may be collecting applications for their pool. The positions may have already been filled by internal applications or the current position holders who are changing their FTEs/schedules, but the facility is obligated by union or whatever rules to post the position publicly as well.

Sorry this isn't what you wanted to hear. But better you hear the truth than have me patting your hand saying, "there, there" and giving you false reassurances.

All you can do now is keep applying and trying. If you can't find your desired position, try to get into a facility in any way you can--part-time, per-diem, less desired specialty--and over time, work your way over to where you want to be via internal transfers.

If you can go back to school right now, maybe consider doing it, though there's no guarantees than a MSN/DNP will automatically open doors either--the market is tight for NPs too. And you may have to relocate to a less-than-desirable area to land that new grad NP job.

Best of luck.

You are correct! I myself feel that Diploma nurses are discriminated against. If you are 60 yrs old with 30 plus years of experience, where is the incentive to

return to school for a BSN. I have 23 1/2 yrs acute care experience. Since I have moved out of state, the only thing they care about is a sheepskin. Experience will get you NOWHERE. Who is going to mentor the new nurse? I took the NCEX in 1988 and still have a license. If you are

not in management, you are playing the

same role on the floor. Doesn't make any

sense at all. If there is a shortage,its because they make life too difficult to practice nursing and we are not appreciated for our hard work in a lot of instances. Magnet status does anything but bring our profession together. Ah, I feel so much better now!

Thats what you get for all your money to

buy that sheepskin. You need experience.

But, thats not good enough either. I have been an RN since 1988 and in acute care mentoring new BSN nurses. Im a Diploma nurse. They want me to go back to school even though I will retire in 5 yrs. you have got to be kidding me!

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