What do ya'll think of this?

  1. i was researching info about rnfa's when i ran across a statement about having non-rn's circulating in the or and a kind poster on the or topic board directed me to this article, and was wondering what non or rn's thought about it.

    i found some interesting information in this article. at the bottom of the article is a listing of states; along with if they require an rn to be in the or. i don't know if there are actually places that do not have rn's in the or during surgery, but 7 states have
    no staffing requirement at all. only 22 states require rn's to be in the or, and the other states only require an rn to be "available" this is from may 2001, so some of it may have changed.

    http://www.aorn.org/journal/2001/mayhpi.htm

    thanks for your time.
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  2. 5 Comments

  3. by   StudentSandra
    isn't the name of this forum nursing issues/concerns and how they affect patient safety and care? it may not be happening right now, but you all know someday it will, with the shortage and facilities trying to pince pennies herever they can.

    is this one of the problems in nursing, "this doesn't effect my corner of the world" so it's not your problem?

    or is it that a student asked for an opinion, many on the student board have commented on the lack of replies to their questions over here.

    when you are in surgery someday, don't you want an rn in the or with you??????
  4. by   P_RN
    It is scarey. But then the way things are going I wouldn't doubt that sooner or later they will attempt to pass off UAP's as a ALTERNATE...a LEGAL ALTERNATE to many things that nurses now do.

    It's time for us to quit all the in-fighting, young-eating and stick together. Let the media know what is happening. WHILE nurses are still able to.
  5. by   nursesteph
    I think a competent nurse is a competent nurse & it does not matter what her degree is, when I was a student I had two instructors that were BSN's & if my family was involved in their hospital I would leave, they were that clueless. The degree does not make the nurse.
  6. by   StudentSandra
    This does not have anything to do with degrees, just the fact that there are no federal laws requiring circulators in the OR to be RNs. Depending on how the laws are read, they could possibly have 1 RN "immediatly availabe" and ST & UAP circulating in the OR.
  7. by   OBNURSEHEATHER
    Originally posted by StudentSandra
    Is this one of the problems in nursing, "this doesn't effect my corner of the world" so it's not your problem?

    Or is it that a student asked for an opinion, many on the student board have commented on the lack of replies to their questions over here.
    Perhaps I just don't have an opinion, and am not obligated to respond to any post.

    Heather

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