Well.. I guess I am going to be canned - page 3

by Phoenix2541, BSN, RN | 36,857 Views | 124 Comments

Hi all I am a new nurse 4 mos off orientation working on a med/surge nuero floor 6 patient ratio. Its a brutal floor and yet.. I manage to survive albeit exhausted and oft times just disillusioned with the Candy Land notion of... Read More


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    Quote from Phoenix2541
    Thanks for your responses guys. Sigh, I did not include this piece of information. The housekeeper was in an isolation room cleaning and when the patient asked if I could come in and apply more tape on her bandage, as I was gowning up, he said to me" you want me to do it". So this is where I made the fatal mistake, I said ok. I watched him and the issue is a) she has a pysch background, b.its a she and housekeeper is a he, c. did he even change his gloves. (I didn't see that part), Lastly, I did not critically think about the ramifications of this and this is a patient safety issue and he was non nursing staff. So I got canned. I am bummed of course, but I have learned from this and will not make that kind of mistake again.

    Tks
    ((HUGS)) I am sooooo sorry......soooooo sorry...((HUGS)).

    This stinks.... suspension with probation......take a class in patient safety but firing?

    What happened to forgivness and mistakes....we have ALL made mistakes but for some reason in this world today they dump you instead of forgiving you and helping you become a better nurse.
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    Well, now THAT was an overreaction......if they're going to fire nurses for something like this, who knows what they do to the ones who do something really egregious, like giving the wrong patient a dose of insulin? Drag 'em out to the town square and hang 'em at high noon?

    I'm not saying that what happened with the patient is right, and the OP should have been written up for it. But fired??! I'm no fan of unions, but if she works in a union hospital her rep ought to be jumping all over this.

    One thing's for sure, though---I bet the OP never makes a mistake like this again. I just hope she doesn't get scared out of the profession (and I couldn't blame her if she did leave, this treatment was abominable!). We don't have a nurse to waste. Sure wish management would get that.
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    Isn't it terrible that these CYA lessons in nursing have to come from experience? I think I probably wouldn't have done anything about it because I know a housekeeper putting tape on a bandage isn't a problem. BUT... always CYA. Yeah, and you end up one of THOSE nurses that the other girls talk about how you can't ever do anything with out telling the boss and blah blah blah. I knew a nurse who second guessed everything she did and was always calling the manager and everyone talked about how stupid she was. But after three months in that facility and learning CYA, that :stupid: nurse was a smart nurse. The one time on my job I didn't CYA I got busted and fired. IT's terrible to have to learn the Cover Your Ass lesson the hard way.
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    Quote from Phoenix2541
    Thanks for your responses guys. Sigh, I did not include this piece of information. The housekeeper was in an isolation room cleaning and when the patient asked if I could come in and apply more tape on her bandage, as I was gowning up, he said to me" you want me to do it". So this is where I made the fatal mistake, I said ok. I watched him and the issue is a) she has a pysch background, b.its a she and housekeeper is a he, c. did he even change his gloves. (I didn't see that part), Lastly, I did not critically think about the ramifications of this and this is a patient safety issue and he was non nursing staff. So I got canned. I am bummed of course, but I have learned from this and will not make that kind of mistake again.

    Tks
    Oh okay that makes more sense. Still not sure how someone can sue over it though. A good money grab I suppose.
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    You allowed a male housekeeper to apply tape to a female psych patient's thigh. That wasn't smart. She could claim he fondled her. She may actually get something from her lawsuit. Probably an out of court settlement. Lots of facilities settle instead of spending $$$$ on defending a suit.

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    Quote from VivaLasViejas
    Well, now THAT was an overreaction......if they're going to fire nurses for something like this, who knows what they do to the ones who do something really egregious, like giving the wrong patient a dose of insulin? Drag 'em out to the town square and hang 'em at high noon?

    I'm not saying that what happened with the patient is right, and the OP should have been written up for it. But fired??! I'm no fan of unions, but if she works in a union hospital her rep ought to be jumping all over this.

    One thing's for sure, though---I bet the OP never makes a mistake like this again. I just hope she doesn't get scared out of the profession (and I couldn't blame her if she did leave, this treatment was abominable!). We don't have a nurse to waste. Sure wish management would get that.
    This

    Lessons learned OP...((((HUGS))))
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    Quote from dansamy
    You allowed a male housekeeper to apply tape to a female psych patient's thigh. That wasn't smart. She could claim he fondled her. She may actually get something from her lawsuit. Probably an out of court settlement. Lots of facilities settle instead of spending $$$$ on defending a suit.

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    I agree that this was a judgement issue for the nurse. However, I would have no concerns about a lawsuit or settlement. The patient has to prove actual harm and in this case there obviously was no harm to the patient unless there is something we don't know about. It's a shame the employer didn't stand behind the nurse and use this as a teaching moment.
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    Quote from jaabrn

    I agree that this was a judgement issue for the nurse. However, I would have no concerns about a lawsuit or settlement. The patient has to prove actual harm and in this case there obviously was no harm to the patient unless there is something we don't know about. It's a shame the employer didn't stand behind the nurse and use this as a teaching moment.
    I believe the suit is frivolous, but I thought the McDonald's coffee suit was too. Duh, coffee's hot. Don't spill it!

    I think the patient & her lawyer could possibly make enough noise that the hospital offers them a settlement just to make them go away.

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    I agree with the last poster! This is trivial and you didn't even ask the person to do it. Occasionally a CNA would change a simple dressing on a bedsore after cleaning the patient up and I let them. The situation sounds ridiculous and overblown and frankly I don't see what the patient could sue for? What does their PTSD have to do with it anyway? No harm was done! I can't imagine you would lose your job over this. Frankly it sounds trumped up that you would even have to go to HR over this. Good luck!
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    No it wasn't smart. There is no "law suit pending" My manager simply stated she "could" bring one, like anybody "can" bring a suit about anything. Tks for the empathy.
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