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No. 50
Old Jan 09, 2009, 01:43 PM

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Thank you for the support. I have been taking continuing education courses on medication safety, as well as nursing in general. I plan to go into my next job much more prepared. I now realize that it is in my power to try to prevent these situations by being proactive about getting the training that I need. I guess as a new grad, I was in a vulnerable place really not knowing what sort of training that I needed until it was too late. It's really too bad that I had to go through this experience to learn that and honestly, I am very nervous to get another job in nursing because I have lost confidence in myself. So I am trying to be as educated as possible now before even seriously looking for a new job in nursing. I am considering school nursing part time.
I also hope that the board will be understanding and see it from my perspective- that I am working on educating myself and that I was also in a hostile environment at my facility. I also fully understand now how my license can be easily compromised by my actions and plan to be much, much more careful in the future.
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No. 51
Old Jan 09, 2009, 05:33 PM

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Don't be too shy coming back that will look bad too. Everybody understands a bad fit when it comes to a position.
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No. 52
from diane227
Old Jan 15, 2009, 04:50 AM

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You need to get yourself an attorney, one that has a speciality in labor law and run all this by him/ her. First of all, under the labor laws it is against the law to ask anyone about their nationality or about how many children they have etc. In addition, they cannot take disciplinary action against you just because you are PG. You are allow to ask a potential employee if they have an adequate way to get to work and will they be able to b on time. Your "errors" sound rather trite and there is something else going on with this manager. It appears from what you say that you are outside your 90 day probationary period and you do not qualify for FMLA because you have not been in this position for at least one year. You need to decide if you want this job or not. Once the union or an attorney brings an action against them, it will turn out to be an all out war and the NM will really be after you then. It is a shame that you do have someone higher up the food chain to talk to. Can you request transfer to another area?. Can you ask your union rep to set up a meeting with HR, her manager and ask for a transfer.
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No. 53
Old Jan 23, 2009, 12:43 AM

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Well, it's too late to ask for a transfer. I did attempt to get a job in another unit towards the beginning of my time there, but my manager gave me a negative reference (after only a few weeks!). I should have tried harder to get into another unit before things got really bad, but I thought I could work it out on the unit if I tried hard enough. I ended up quitting because it was driving me up the wall and working all my nerves. Basically, I've been on maternity leave since then. I have retained an attorney and we are working on some EEOC stuff. I have not heard from the BON as of this time. I agree that there was more going on than errors. I am planning to return to work at some point, but probably not in a hospital setting for now.
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No. 54
from rainyann
Old Jan 25, 2009, 09:56 AM

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The one thing I don't understand is how you didn't know the requirement for a second nurse with insulin. That should have been part of orientation. I am in NUrsing Quality and it seems to me that you have had more than your share of occurrences. I do not work in a union hospital but here while you are on probation you can be let go for almost any reason if you are not working out.

I would be very careful from now on and seek the advice of a trsuted co-worker to prevent making any errors in the future
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No. 55
Old Jan 25, 2009, 11:35 AM

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It seems like the BON is not too concerened about your nursing practice ( which is very good). Home care is a good place where you can only see one patient at a time. Also usually they are flexible about child care issues.

Give the baby a big kiss.
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No. 56
Old Feb 04, 2009, 09:30 AM

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Thanks for the continuing support. I have still not heard from the BON and my time with my new baby has been great.
Believe it or not, I was never oriented on the fact the you need a second nurse to verify insulin dose. Since then, I've been told that this is a very basic part of orientation. Hence, I do believe that my orientation was lacking (in probably more than a couple areas).
Like I said before, I am a little nervous about going back to work, but I do plan on returning within a few months or so and have learned how important it is to get the training that I need and not take any risks with my license. If I feel uncomfortable with anything, rather then feel pressured into taking an inappropriate patient assignment (complicated patients too soon, etc), I will speak up.
I remember being assigned the most difficult patient on the unit within a couple weeks of starting. They had also stopped assigning me to a preceptor at that time. Even though I was a new grad and had only been on the unit a couple weeks. Anyways, I made an error at that time, as well as had a very difficult time dealing with this patient. That shouldn't have happened and in the future, I will not accept an assignment that is too advanced.
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No. 57
Old Feb 04, 2009, 09:36 PM

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Are you sure that they reported you to the BON? It seems like if you were a real threat they would have to move faster than this.

Don't let this shaky start to nursing let your education go down the drain. Is there any one from your nursing school that you could trust and talk to ? They will know the local climate.

Glad to her your baby is doing well, enjoy.
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No. 58
Old May 04, 2009, 12:12 PM

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I can't believe it's been 7 months since this all happened! I have not returned to the workplace yet. I decided to take a longer maternity leave of one year. I have continued to take continuing education modules online to stay on top of and hopefully improve my practice.
I have NOT heard from the BON. They had requested more information from the hospital several months ago. However, I have not heard from them. So I have my doubts that they consider this a serious case.
Unfortunately, at this juncture, my former employer is badmouthing me. I know because I hired a professional reference checker to see what she was saying about me. She cited my youth as my only asset to the profession of nursing and stated that she felt I endanger the lives of patients. She said other negative things, of course.
Anyways, does anyone have recommendations as to how to get a job after this ordeal? Obviously, I can't be listing her as a reference after the things she has said about me. I suppose I should also be clear, however, that the hospital that I worked for did not have a great reputation. It is considered to be the bottom of the barrel in my state. Perhaps that will make a difference one way or another.
From what I have heard from others, not listing them as a reference is likely not an option. Any suggestions???? I just want to move on with my life and career!
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No. 59
from morte
Old May 04, 2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by crimson and clover View Post
I can't believe it's been 7 months since this all happened! I have not returned to the workplace yet. I decided to take a longer maternity leave of one year. I have continued to take continuing education modules online to stay on top of and hopefully improve my practice.
I have NOT heard from the BON. They had requested more information from the hospital several months ago. However, I have not heard from them. So I have my doubts that they consider this a serious case.
Unfortunately, at this juncture, my former employer is badmouthing me. I know because I hired a professional reference checker to see what she was saying about me. She cited my youth as my only asset to the profession of nursing and stated that she felt I endanger the lives of patients. She said other negative things, of course.
Anyways, does anyone have recommendations as to how to get a job after this ordeal? Obviously, I can't be listing her as a reference after the things she has said about me. I suppose I should also be clear, however, that the hospital that I worked for did not have a great reputation. It is considered to be the bottom of the barrel in my state. Perhaps that will make a difference one way or another.
From what I have heard from others, not listing them as a reference is likely not an option. Any suggestions???? I just want to move on with my life and career!
leaving them off your resume is not acceptable, but i would say they were not to be contacted....this of course will throw up a red flag of its own.....but if you get good enough other references .....good luck
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