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No. 80
Old Dec 24, 2008, 02:14 AM
Updated Dec 24, 2008 at 02:19 AM by Nurseismade RN

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I am sure a "team" as mentioned is in place. But as you know this poor child needs medical attention, hence nursing care. Us nurses are ones that are most often with the patient. So I fully understand where the original post is comming from. I personally do not see the harm in getting this very lonely child a nice soft teddy to cuddle. I hope who did this Rots in prison. That is the most sickening horrific thing I have ever heard. Just having a caring nurse will help in the healing of this poor poor child.
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No. 81
Old Dec 24, 2008, 02:17 AM

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To the original poster, I admire you so much for working with children (especially in situations like this.) One of the posters recommended a journal which I think is a great idea, I also think that if its possible you should take some time to sit and talk with her. You don't have to prompt her to talk about the traumatic experiences that have happened to her but just talk to her about anything (school, hobbies, friends etc.) if she is willing to talk. I think it would help her to open up the lines of communications especially since she isn't allowed to have any visitors. The only think I would be careful of is of self-disclosure, I think another user suggested talking about personal experiences and I can see why you might be tempted to do that but I think you want to stick to general topics of conversation and see what this little girl has to say. Good luck!

!Chris
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No. 82
from Zana2
Old Dec 24, 2008, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ssouthernyankee View Post
I've re read all my posts and I am so sorry that it seems i'm making this about me. That's not really the case. ....
It is about you...and her. I'm a mother and nearly a nurse, and I would not be able to do what you are doing, looking after that little girl, without breaking into pieces, it's such a responsability and so heartwrenching, my hands are shacking just thinking about it.
Let us offer you a shoulder as well. You really are an amazing person.
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No. 83
Old Dec 24, 2008, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ssouthernyankee View Post
I've re read all my posts and I am so sorry that it seems i'm making this about me. That's not really the case. I truly feel so sad for HER, yes it's making me think about my own issues but I can't stop that from happening. I won't tell her anything about me. Sorry I'm getting so upset I just don't know...I'm doing the very best I can. We really do not have trauma therapist in our area. pop. less than 3,000. They haven't sent any therapist in to talk to her just the detectives badgering her. I am so put out by my own hospital right now. Again I'm sorry.
You said only detectives have talked to her so far? It might be a good idea to find a SANE nurse in your area who can tell you what rescources you and she have available to you. Not for the evidence collection but they have contacts surly that they can give you on councelers, advocates, and such that might be willing to come to her room.

If you arn't sure where there is a SANE nurse in your area we might be able to help find one.
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No. 84
from DDRN4me
Old Dec 24, 2008, 04:59 AM

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(((southernyankee))) I work in a facility where about 80% of the kids have been physically and sexually abused. some are also perpetrators as that is all they have grown up with. we have kids as young as 5 who have horrible abuse histories.
the bear and coloring book and journal are great ideas. do not be surprised though that she pulls back when you get too close .. you might want to google reactive attachment disorder...as she will inevitably show some signs of this.
be careful as others have said about crossing boundaries. It will hurt her worse if you get pulled off the case for being too involved when she gets close to you. I have many small kids in my facility that i would love to adopt. we are not allowed for good reason... there are too many of them!
Please try and get some counseling for yourself. this is bringing up horrible memories for you and you deserve better.
God Bless you and this little girl; and may her parents rot in the depths of the darkest place.
please feel free to PM me if I can help. Merry Christmas friend. mary
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No. 85
Old Dec 24, 2008, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tippy-ta-ta View Post
Southernyankee~you are a wonderful, loving, caring woman. Just reading your posts about what you have done for this little girl makes me soo grateful for her that she has you. Since they haven't sent any therapist in to see her, could you contact one yourself or ask the doc on her case for a referral? She really needs to see a child therapist. Especially one who deals with this kind of stuff.
Since her father was arrested and DHS is most likely going to be involved at this point. They will remove the little girl from her home. Is it possible that you can apply to be a foster parent? Maybe that way you can ask that she be placed with you since you know her case. I would contact DHS and ask them what you can do to get involved with her outside of the hosp. DHS will more than likely want to discuss with you and the doc the extent of her injuries and recieve her medical records as well.
Actually I started the long process of applying to be a foster parent a few months ago. The thought has crossed my mind. I will have to go through some couseling myself before I make any decisions though.
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No. 86
from SwampCat
Old Dec 24, 2008, 08:08 AM

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I hope the parents do NOT rot in jail. Those who destroy lives deserve their lives to be destroyed as well.

Southernyankee - you are doing an awesome job. This little girl will remember you forever.
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No. 87
from Thornbird
Old Dec 24, 2008, 09:37 AM

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Perhaps you might contact the DHS worker and advocate for her being transferred to a children's hospital or specialty facility (if she's medically clear)where she can get the team approach she needs? You would lose her as a patient, but more easily be able to treat her as a friend. If that fails advocating for a SANE nurse and a child therapist would help. The DHS should be doing this, but may be more focused on the investigation than the care the child needs. I just fear that once her medical needs are stabilized, she will get put right into group/foster care without the intensive help she needs.

I think that just because it brings up the past for you doesn't mean you should limit your involvement. Since you have been able to have a family and career, you obviously have worked hard on healing your own trauma. I think it's a great idea to get some therapy for yourself for a while in helping you deal with it. Also, very good to turn here for support. The fact that you are able to reach out and to discuss this issue also shows you have done some healing.

I originally majored in Human Services because I wanted to help child abuse victims, having also a very bad childhood. I worked as a CNA to pay for it. By the 3rd year, I realized nursing was a better choice for me. Nurses provide real, tangible help to their patients. Even if they need a referral elsewhere we DO SOMETHING for them. Human Services was all about making referrals and coming up with care plans for the family or someone else to carry out. Nurses jump in and get things done! Being an advocate for the patient is what I see as my most important role as a nurse. This child needs an advocate. Give her lots of TLC, as you are. But, also really advocate for her to get all the treatment she needs to heal emotionally as well as physically.

And don't forget to take care of you!
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No. 88
Old Dec 24, 2008, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Thornbird View Post
Perhaps you might contact the DHS worker and advocate for her being transferred to a children's hospital or specialty facility (if she's medically clear)where she can get the team approach she needs? You would lose her as a patient, but more easily be able to treat her as a friend. If that fails advocating for a SANE nurse and a child therapist would help. The DHS should be doing this, but may be more focused on the investigation than the care the child needs. I just fear that once her medical needs are stabilized, she will get put right into group/foster care without the intensive help she needs.

I think that just because it brings up the past for you doesn't mean you should limit your involvement. Since you have been able to have a family and career, you obviously have worked hard on healing your own trauma. I think it's a great idea to get some therapy for yourself for a while in helping you deal with it. Also, very good to turn here for support. The fact that you are able to reach out and to discuss this issue also shows you have done some healing.

I originally majored in Human Services because I wanted to help child abuse victims, having also a very bad childhood. I worked as a CNA to pay for it. By the 3rd year, I realized nursing was a better choice for me. Nurses provide real, tangible help to their patients. Even if they need a referral elsewhere we DO SOMETHING for them. Human Services was all about making referrals and coming up with care plans for the family or someone else to carry out. Nurses jump in and get things done! Being an advocate for the patient is what I see as my most important role as a nurse. This child needs an advocate. Give her lots of TLC, as you are. But, also really advocate for her to get all the treatment she needs to heal emotionally as well as physically.

And don't forget to take care of you!
Thank you. I am actually looking in to having her transferred to our children's hosp. it would be a 3 hour drive but I have a few friends who live there so maybe i could visit her on my days off and weekends. Trying to get a team together. I am going to talk with her new case worker soon to see what options there are. If they would just get a therapist in here for her it would ease my mind alot. If they don't Im going to check into whether or not I can get my old therapist to come in and see her if they will allow it. I know she's good and knows what she's doing with these trauma cases.
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No. 89
from DA314
Old Dec 24, 2008, 10:13 AM

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but any chance they could use that (the jouranl) as evidence against her?

I'm not sure what you mean by that? What did the girl do wrong that they would use against her?
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