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No. 90
from rph3664
Old Dec 24, 2008, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DA314 View Post
I'm not sure what you mean by that? What did the girl do wrong that they would use against her?
I think by "her", they meant the mom.

The child did nothing wrong.

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No. 91
from sharpeimom
Old Dec 24, 2008, 03:36 PM

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With regard to the journal some have suggested the child keep -- it's a good idea, but best if done down the road because if the parents' attorneys get wind of the journal's existence, they can demand to examine it and may twist whatever she has written to their own advantage. If I sound anti-attorney, I'm not. I come from several generations of attorneys, judges and a some physicians as well and I've seen what can happen. This child needs to be able to move on to a better place and while I think it's admirable that the OP wants to befriend her and make things all better, she needs to be sure she doesn't become so necessary a part of her life that it breaks the girl's heart when the girl moves on to the next phase in her life. I don't mean to sound harsh, but to have the only or one of the only people who ever care about her suddenly not there can and will devastate her and she'll be back to where she was emotionally. I am absolutely NOT saying not to befriend her just not to try to be a mom to her or become indispensable. Hugs, reading to her, rocking her, sitting with her are all good but also, please, give her some space, time alone and dignity because she's older at nine than most of us will be at ninety-nine.

Next time you hug her, tell yourself it's from all of us too,
and keep one for yourself while you're at it,

sharpeimom
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No. 92
from Thornbird
Old Dec 24, 2008, 06:15 PM

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I think maybe in a case of an adult or teen with a less physically brutal assault, there may be something that could be found in a journal that an attorney might twist. But, in this case, the physical evidence speaks for itself. I don't see how there is anything that this poor little girl could say, write, think or do that could be twisted to the defense's aid. She needs an outlet.
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No. 93
from sharpeimom
Old Dec 24, 2008, 07:03 PM

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Unfortunately, there's a particularly motivated type of defender who believes children can be easily persuaded to fabricate or outright lie at the behest of someone else (often the mother but not always) that consequently tries anything he can devise to fluster and discredit the child and many times destroy the child in the process. To what end? He has saved a rapist and sodomist from the "welcome to prison"
initiation party big lifers with names like "Bubba" or "Tiny" hold regularly for certain new inmates.

sharpeimom
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No. 94
Old Dec 24, 2008, 07:48 PM

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that is sad.
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No. 95
Old Dec 24, 2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sharpeimom View Post
. I don't mean to sound harsh, but to have the only or one of the only people who ever care about her suddenly not there can and will devastate her and she'll be back to where she was emotionally. I am absolutely NOT saying not to befriend her just not to try to be a mom to her or become indispensable. Hugs, reading to her, rocking her, sitting with her are all good but also, please, give her some space, time alone and dignity because she's older at nine than most of us will be at ninety-nine.

sharpeimom
Very well said sharpeimom!! My gut is telling me the OP is getting too attached--while I commend her big heart I dont want to see the child go through yet another loss having to leave this nurse (OP)--fact is she will only be at the hosp a short time, then most likely off to the foster care system.
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No. 96
Old Dec 26, 2008, 09:41 PM

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Ok, don't worry anymore about her journal. She isn't using it to write. She is drawing butterflies and flowers.
I am going to get alot of heat about this but oh well. A long while back I started the drawn out process of becoming a theraputic foster parent. Long before my pt came under my care....I passed my home study a couple months ago. I have been in close contact with her case worker and as of now we (entire team) have come to the agreement that I would be the most suitable placement for her. She will need ongoing medical care, I am a single woman( no men in house), and I truly know what it takes to overcome what she has gone through. The fostercare system is rough, but I am living proof that you can overcome and live a semi-normal life. I am strong enough that I overcame so much of what she has ahead of her on my own. I know I can help this sweet child. Yes, I am way involved but I am able to help this girl when no one else is there to do it. I refuse to turn a blind eye and just hope for the best. I am sure many of you think I am so wrong in doing this but tell me if you know you can make a difference isn't that what you should do?
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No. 97
from Babs0512
Old Dec 26, 2008, 09:59 PM

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It really doesn't matter what we think. What matters is what those involve think, and you and the team your working with know the case better than any of us, and if you are willing to give of yourself and take this child on, then God bless you. You know you may see behaviors develop in this child that can be trouble in the future, so you understand the commitment you're making. We aren't here to judge you, or give you absolution.

I wish you and this child the very best, and I hope Jesus sits on your shoulder as you attempt to parent this child physically and mentally. We will all be rooting for you, I'm sure. Do keep us posted.

Blessings to you both.
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No. 98
Old Dec 26, 2008, 10:11 PM

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Personally, I'm not sure the foster parent idea is a good one, no offense. The OP has to deal with her trauma she experienced at the hands of a predator, and by the sounds of it, she may have more work to do before she would be able to help this child.

I cannot believe there isn't someone in your area who could come and work with this child - perhaps in a nearby city? I live in a rural area, but within 30 min there are three large cities with which to work.

I genuinely believe you are doing your level best for this patient, but you must put your own demons to rest before you can really tackle her's. IMHO

Blessings
I know it doesn't seem like I have dealt with my own issues but truly I have. I was in foster care from 11 to 17 when I worked my rear off to get myself imancipated. I've gone on to college raising 2 awesome kids on my own. Never had help from anyone other than a therapist. I turned my entire life around on my own. Even after dealing with what has happened to me one can never completely forget. I've done well this has just triggered some memories in me but I am handling it. I did manage to get my former therapist in to see her and she will continue to do so. Just thought I should clarify that I'm not falling completely apart. It has been difficult to get her all the help she needs mainly because of the time of year when so many are out on vacations and such. Thank you for the concern though. God BLess
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No. 99
Old Dec 26, 2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Babs0512 View Post
It really doesn't matter what we think. What matters is what those involve think, and you and the team your working with know the case better than any of us, and if you are willing to give of yourself and take this child on, then God bless you. You know you may see behaviors develop in this child that can be trouble in the future, so you understand the commitment you're making. We aren't here to judge you, or give you absolution.

I wish you and this child the very best, and I hope Jesus sits on your shoulder as you attempt to parent this child physically and mentally. We will all be rooting for you, I'm sure. Do keep us posted.

Blessings to you both.
Thank you so much. I know what the possible problems are, I've had additional training for the theraputic foster care program to deal with potential "problem children" I can't say that I will always know what to do but I do know that I will always do the best I can by her and any future placements I may recieve. Thanks again.
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