I am a worried CNA - page 3

Hello I am a CNA at a large long term care health care facility, most of my residents have alzheimers or are quite combative I am 32 and the other CNA's I work with are 21 or 22. They are... Read More

  1. by   Krissy NY
    Quote from apoole77
    Ummm... I just wanted to comment that some of your post seemed a little bit closed minded. I totally understand not being happy with people when they are not doing thier job, but would like to encourage you to look past people's situations that are different than your own. Anyway I am sorry that work is not going so well for you. Good luck.
    Well, when you had had money taken and jackets stolen and feel depressed every single day you have to climb the stairs to your unit you might be a bit jaded too. Especially seeing helpless people being looked at as "pains in the a**es" and treated as such.

    My situation is not far from theres. I am a single woman trying to maintain an apartment in NY and vehical as well as save...but I do not steal or take my sadness out on others, the residents or the co-workers. I am kind to everyone and a darn hard worker.

    I feel the way you address me above is brief and judgemental. I was told to be careful to share too much on public forum, especially when you are down. You are sometimes asking for it. People can really do a number on you.





    ummm...
  2. by   lizmatt
    sorry did not mean to come off like that - just slightly offended (unjustified) by your post or had a bad day... true I need to heed my own advice and be less judgemental. Again I apologize - you are only looking for support. I do sincerly wish you the best in your situation.
  3. by   Krissy NY
    Well, if you had a bad day you should share it and maybe someone can help. That is what these forums are for.

    There is no need to apologize. Thanks for responding. I welcome all responses. I learn from each of them and sometimes it takes an outsider to truly see what is going on.




    Quote from apoole77
    sorry did not mean to come off like that - just slightly offended (unjustified) by your post or had a bad day... true I need to heed my own advice and be less judgemental. Again I apologize - you are only looking for support. I do sincerly wish you the best in your situation.
  4. by   Fivestar22
    Krissy, I have been a CNA since I was 18, I am now 25 and a BSN student. I want you to know that no matter where you go, there will always be some people that are going to neglect their pts/ I have never mistreated a pt, nor have I ever stood by and watched another person treat a pt badly. You truly need to report this to your superiors, if they do not listen, then you need to go the state. Falsifying records is a HIPPA violation, and the CNAs doing this could actually be in big trouble from the Federal gov't if they are caught. I know this may seem harsh, but I don't think these girls deserve another chance, and if I were you I would look into getting their certifications taken away. We don't need them in health care. :angryfire

    It sounds like you are really caring and I hope that some of your compassion rubs off on your co-workers. Chin up!

    Quote from Krissy NY
    Hello

    I am a CNA at a large long term care health care facility, most of my residents have alzheimers or are quite combative

    I am 32 and the other CNA's I work with are 21 or 22. They are extremely unprofessional...admitting to me that they "make up temps" and "make up weights" "why waste time on that when you can go outside and have a cigerette???"

    It sickens me. They do not answer call bells.THey steal linen from beds I open. They try to switch residents with me on the night they know the resident is a shower or a treatment. They take advantage of the new nurse on the floor..i.e. only doing their last turn to save their butt

    Please tell me it is not always like this. I am also curious as to how a 21 year old has 3 kids and is a heavy smoker already???? These are my co-workers

    I put in for a floor change...I hope it works

    Krissy
  5. by   Fivestar22
    You have the right to express your anger, but I honestly think it is time to start looking for a new place to work. Their is a health care shortage, and I think you may have better luck in a hospital. I worked in a LTC enviornment for about a year, when some one broke into my locker and stole my entire paycheck. Over 4 hundred dollars. After that I went to work in a hospital and the people there were so much nicer then the ones in the LTC facility. I worked in two hospitals since then, and the pay is better, the hours, and the superiors care much more than they did in the LTC facility. Plus I accquired many additional skills, such as learning to do EkG's, blood draws, and bladder scans. Plus I have assisted in the OR and on many interesting procedures. The nurses in the hospitals respect me more then the ones in the LTC did, and they have taught me so many things, and the doc's love to educate students. Being in NYC you should have no problem landing a job at a great hospital. Shoot for the stars you can do it!!! Good luck.... Smile


    Quote from Krissy NY
    Well, if you had a bad day you should share it and maybe someone can help. That is what these forums are for.

    There is no need to apologize. Thanks for responding. I welcome all responses. I learn from each of them and sometimes it takes an outsider to truly see what is going on.
  6. by   Krissy NY
    Five Star,

    I believe what you say. I remember going to pick up one of our residents (who has breast cancer) at a major hospital and how lovely the nurses were. They were helpful and warm and actually remembered my name when I left. What a difference it was leaving the nursing home for just an hour or so...and stepping into this different world.

    I remember getting back with the resident in the van and how my "charge nurse" was outside smoking with the cna's and just glared at me as I wheeled the resident past her.

    If your resident just got back from the hospital for a cancer treatment would you not welcome them??? or would you just puff away on your cigerette and stare as they were wheeled by. It makes me sick! :angryfire
  7. by   mstewart
    Girl, get those NIKE's on and like the wind!! You don't need to- and shouldn't take that. I would get a different job and call the state as soon and I step foot out of there! Not to mention I would let those other CNA's have it with both barrels! If they don't care about people-go work retail!! Not to mention if some low life called my house with the sob/how-dare-you story, I'd just tell her if she had been doing her job she wouldn't have been in trouble in the first place!
    I hate when businesses pay their workers pennies because the people on top want more $$$. It is always the people who need help the most that suffer. I hoep that there is a SPECIAL place in hades for these people!! Right next to those who get a job in healthcare and really don't care about people (not to mention falsifying records!!) :angryfire
  8. by   Michelleroth1
    Quote from Krissy NY
    Hello

    I am a CNA at a large long term care health care facility, most of my residents have alzheimers or are quite combative

    I am 32 and the other CNA's I work with are 21 or 22. They are extremely unprofessional...admitting to me that they "make up temps" and "make up weights" "why waste time on that when you can go outside and have a cigerette???"

    It sickens me. They do not answer call bells.THey steal linen from beds I open. They try to switch residents with me on the night they know the resident is a shower or a treatment. They take advantage of the new nurse on the floor..i.e. only doing their last turn to save their butt

    Please tell me it is not always like this. I am also curious as to how a 21 year old has 3 kids and is a heavy smoker already???? These are my co-workers

    I put in for a floor change...I hope it works

    Krissy


    Dear Krissy Like you I am a 42 yr old CNA working about a month now. I have seen it to but I was able to hook up with other CNA's Who want to provide the best care possible We treat each resident as if they were our own family This is why I stay if the little kids who are playing with not giving peri care or the proper care rule the facility Imagine the life the resident after you leave. I have spoken with the DON and ADON about this and they trying to get some good people in and they are keeping me with others who will work (some nights I dont get a break cleaning up after those before me) If they cant do that for you start dropping resumes. Get running girl. I'm staying put because they are paying for my R.N. schooling and because I do make a difference I became a nurse to help others, not for the paycheck But the money is nice to have Good Luck Sis
    Michelle
  9. by   Krissy NY
    I am not going to let this experience ruin my hopefulness towards a future as an RN. If you have read some of my posts you will see that I do not have a support system. My family is awful and would rather see me struggling in a lowly job then thriving in a comfortable position. My esteem has come from within and from my CNA teacher and staff at the school I attended, who believe in me.

    It is hard to finally "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" and become a CNA and get kicked over and over.

    It is a mean world out there...or is it just New York :uhoh21:
  10. by   kar212
    Krissy, I see that other folks here have given you similar advice: get out. I am an RN and I worked in LTC for about two years. I started there because I didn't feel ready to work in acute care. I came across some really AWFUL CNAs and some really good ones. When I started working in acute care, I noticed a huge increase in the amount of excellent CNAs that truly cared about their patients. I encourage you to look into getting a job in a hospital. The pay, I'm sure, is better and so will your work load. I do know that for CNAs and RNs alike in LTC, the work load is unrealistic. I remember so many nights I went home without doing any of the treatments, because I had to give about 10 million pills to the patients. And I know that there is no way to properly provide all hygeine care to the large amount of patients that are assigned to CNAs in LTC facilities. By the time I left LTC, I was so relieved to get away from it. It gave me some really valuable experience, but I'll never work in LTC again in my nursing career. Not that everything is perfect in a hospital, but so much better than in LTC.
    Please keep us posted. I'm SURE you can find a better job.
    Take care.
  11. by   mrsabradford
    I too am from NY (Brooklyn). My mother, brother and cousin were/are all CNA's. My mother worked privately in people's homes. My brother and cousin both work in nursing homes. I know what you are going through, sort of. I'm taking CNA classes while I'm taking pre-clinical to hopefully get accepted to the nursing program at BMCC.

    Heed the advice from everyone. Follow protocol complain to your supervisors, however I would give them a letter and document everything with dates, times and names of people involved. Give as much information as possible this will let them know that you mean business. Also, report it to the state and lastly leave. I would suggest that you look for work in a hospital. The case load is less and there are more staff. You will find problems everywhere you go but this is ridiculous. You are only one person but one person can make a difference (Remember Rosa Parks) make your written complaints and then follow up with your superiors and the state.

    I wish you well you seem to be a very warm and nurturing person. You picked a great profession. Unfortunately, not everyone in the profession fits your profile.
  12. by   Krissy NY
    Thanks so much. I am keeping my chin up...better times are ahead

    So glad I found this forum!

    Hugs




    Quote from mrsabradford
    I too am from NY (Brooklyn). My mother, brother and cousin were/are all CNA's. My mother worked privately in people's homes. My brother and cousin both work in nursing homes. I know what you are going through, sort of. I'm taking CNA classes while I'm taking pre-clinical to hopefully get accepted to the nursing program at BMCC.

    Heed the advice from everyone. Follow protocol complain to your supervisors, however I would give them a letter and document everything with dates, times and names of people involved. Give as much information as possible this will let them know that you mean business. Also, report it to the state and lastly leave. I would suggest that you look for work in a hospital. The case load is less and there are more staff. You will find problems everywhere you go but this is ridiculous. You are only one person but one person can make a difference (Remember Rosa Parks) make your written complaints and then follow up with your superiors and the state.

    I wish you well you seem to be a very warm and nurturing person. You picked a great profession. Unfortunately, not everyone in the profession fits your profile.
  13. by   CoffeeRTC
    ..but I didn't quit. I started at this place as a CNA while in school for my BSN. Wow..I had a real eye opener. First off smoking was still allowed in the facility in the lobby which also doubled as a sitting room/ holding area and also had the nurses station. None of the CNAs helped me or trained me right. No one did care "by the book". (checks and changes q 2 hr, cleaning and drying then apply moisture barrier, teeth brushing etc) vitals were made up along with the charting. No wonder I never took breaks and stayed late to get charting done.

    yes, I did complain to the supervisors... little was done to help or change. (they were just as lazy as the CNAs). Well, since I was due to graduate and believe it or not jobs were hard to find then, I decided to stay on as a nurse.. boy did things change :angryfire .. one day I decided to take the vital sign equiptment and keep it until the staff asked for it. Funny how vitals were charted and done without a cuff and thermometer? Those folks got a wake up call and write up
    Since I know how diffucult CNA work is, I am never afraid to help when I can and also encourage the CNAs to ask for help. Those who don't and lie to get their work "done" are not tolerated.

    Moral of my long winded story.. you can make a difference, but it may take some work and time. No it wasn't easy. We went from having Provisional licenses to being a deficency free facility I have seen multiple DONs, NHAs, CNAs and nurses in my time..funny how me and a few nurses are still around after 10 years in the same place?

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