Fired for expressing concerns about patient safety and care! - page 8

I need help please. Just not sure what to do now. Getting right to the particulars. I was working in a So Cal Hospital in a Psychiatric unit. I was assigned a set schedule. 1) I was suddenly... Read More

  1. Visit  samadams8 profile page
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    Quote from Paul'in'FL
    ...everyone who isn't independently wealthy is a wage slave! Come on, I can't be the only nurse who has worked in other industries. Geez, a machine shop floor in the FL heat is no fun, either....but it paid my rent and let me eat.
    Huh? Relevance?

    From my position, nursing is supposed to be a profession, or at least an evolving one. Treating nurses as wage slaves is counterproductive to optimal outcomes.
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  2. Visit  samadams8 profile page
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    Quote from NursesRmofun
    Evolvingrn,

    So true...a new nurse is in a learning mode the first year or two....and, of course, we are always learning afterward too. That first year or two...a lot of what we thought the job was may not be exactly the same as what it truly is. We may be disallusioned. I know I was, to some extent. A new nurse, IMO, needs to do a lot of listening and learning and seeing where she can put herself and her efforts to the best use...and work from there with what she knows. It's not always easy. And some jobs in nursing really are bad....ran by poor examples of Nurses. Not all facilities have great administrators or DON's...that is for sure.
    We don't know that that (the new nurse was coming off as a "know it all") was indeed the case for the OP. People are just making assumptions, and we all know what happens when we assume.

    Balance, fairness, support; this is what nursing needs most IMHO.
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  3. Visit  jadelpn profile page
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    Your union rep has a district manager. I would have a discussion with your union reps boss. If you have paperwork that states your date of hire, they can still let you go, but you have the option of grieving that should you be covered under the union. I would also file for unemployment now.
    The 8 straight day thing is interesting, but a bit of a hard sell. Not right, not necessarily fair, but Wed-Wed I think covers 2 work weeks, therefore they would not owe you overtime IF that is the case. It is a nasty thing to do to someone.
    AWOL's and assaults are one helluva way to run a floor. I am not sure I would think it a good fit for many people.
    I am sorry this has happend to you. Your union rep is to be on your side, and if you have documentation to the contrary, that is very unethical to say the least.
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  4. Visit  Mary,rn,chpn profile page
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    I too was fired for doing the right thing. I complained about a doctor when he totally over-medicated a patient. This doctor had no clue how to do pain management on a terminal cancer patient. I have been hospice nurse for 13 years and I never saw anything like what he did to that patient and her family.

    I will never regret saying what I did. I know I did the right thing and I will do it again if I have to. You also did the right thing. Patient safety is a top priority with me and it seems it is with you also. Never back down from what you know is right, no matter what. Make sure your son understands why you lost your job. And when you interview for the next job, be sure to let the person you are interviewing with knows exactly what happened. I did, and all I got from her was "You are my kind of nurse!" and the job!

    Keep up the good work. Remember, we are responsible to stand up for ourselves and we are the patient advocate. Always do the right thing, you will never regret it and you will be able to hold your head up in front of your son and set a shining example.
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  5. Visit  kcmylorn profile page
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    I must admit I have not read all the posts but I can say this for certain- this problem did not begin with Obamacare. This issue has been going on for the 30 years I have been an RN.


    If you have been working else where- file for unemployment. The Unemployment dept will base it off your last 18 month s of work. Write every thing you can remember down- names dates and times or just a brief senario of your concerns and make the complaint with your state dept of health- they are obligated to investigate all complaints. Yours is a concern for unsafe patient/care practices also go in to the EEO website and file a complaint - the EEOC also handles retaliation and whistleblowing. It is against the law for a whistleblower to have action taken against them for doing so!!! Please check out that website and file a complaint.


    This crap in Nursing needs to stop. We are loosing our jobs over it, damage is bing done to our careers and our reputations and we are made unemloyed- the detrimental effects and financial disaster goes on and on and has for years because some manager doesn't know what to do about the complaint to make the work place better for the staff and the patient's. I have been there done that and got the tee shirt!!
    You may also want to file a patient care complaint with the Obudsman, the americans disability, The department of aging- this complaint can get very ugly for this facility and may serve them with a severe enough difiency that will shut them down- which is why the Manager wanted you out of there.

    Too late- you were there, saw what you saw, made your concerns known to the appropriate person, nothing done to fix the safey issues, you were fired( whistleblowing/retaliation) now it's law suit time.
    Last edit by kcmylorn on Sep 26, '12
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  6. Visit  kcmylorn profile page
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    Quote from samadams8
    Huh? Relevance?

    From my position, nursing is supposed to be a profession, or at least an evolving one. Treating nurses as wage slaves is counterproductive to optimal outcomes.
    Nursing is becoming a wage slave job- the CEO's and finacial adminstrators and nursing administrations are making it that way- to shut up, nurses who complain about valid issues. Face it- they can't beat us with whips but they can threaten our paychecks!!
  7. Visit  samadams8 profile page
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    Quote from kcmylorn
    Nursing is becoming a wage slave job- the CEO's and finacial adminstrators and nursing administrations are making it that way- to shut up, nurses who complain about valid issues. Face it- they can't beat us with whips but they can threaten our paychecks!!
    No doubt. Again this is why I say have another job on the side. There may be a whistleblowing issue. I agree that those other entities should be notified, but I have seen places clean up their acts just long enough to get through an investigation or inspection. The OP will be labeled as a disgruntled employee, and/or "favors" will be exchanged. Sweep, sweep. It's under the rug. It may or may not help to notify someone from Congress. It's nice to have hard facts.
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  8. Visit  AspergersRN profile page
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    I have faced the same issue.

    The place I worked trained me one day and put me on the floor by myself as the only experienced RN on the floor. My ADON had never even been a floor nurse and was a new graduate. I expressed concerns that I did not know where things were, and I did not know enough to work the floor. I asked my ADON for help and she stared and smiled at me, a previous friend of mine. I was told if I wanted more training that I would have to come in for 16+ hour shifts. 8 hours of training and then work my shift.

    I was finally let go for no reason because even with everything the way it was, I do not play around with peoples lives and there was no good reason to "discharge" me.

    I felt horrible and I feel like I do not want to be nurse if I am putting a life at risk, thats the opposite of why I wanted to be a nurse.

    Anyway, I totally understand and I am having a hard time finding another job. I did get unemployment because it was found to be unjust termination, but still it was a termination and I have never done a thing wrong.

    Sorry for your situation. If you figure it out let me know.
  9. Visit  StudentNurseKitteh profile page
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    Wow, there are some nurses who are really uninformed about the status of their industry and our country as a whole.....
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  10. Visit  Kashia profile page
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    Girl, hear what Peter Paul and Mary are sayin about doing the right thing....If I Had a Hammer.....
    Thank you for doing the right thing and being a patient advocate instead of .....like the others:-)Peter, Paul & Mary - If I Had A Hammer - YouTube
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  11. Visit  not.done.yet profile page
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    Your intelligent discourse took a hit when you decided to blame Obamacare for your personal problems. I was sympathetic until that. You made a choice and suffered the consequences. Medicare, Medicaid and healthcare reform had no bearing on your inability to maneuver political minefields in order to promote best outcomes for your patients.

    How much change is being enacted now that you are not there to make any difference at all? You missed the forest for the trees.

    Best of luck on your job search.
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  12. Visit  NursesRmofun profile page
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    samadams8,

    I can't see how I made any assumptions in what I said that you replied to. I was giving my view of what has happened to some people, including myself, as new nurses. Going back, the OP (and other people mentioned) were in new positions if not new nurses....so they were "new nurses" at that job, in that facility. I did not assume anyone that posted here was a new nurse or graduate in my statement.

    "Balance, fairness, support; this is what nursing needs most IMHO".

    That is what nursing needs but not always what she gets or gives....unfortunately.
    Last edit by NursesRmofun on Oct 1, '12 : Reason: typo
  13. Visit  samadams8 profile page
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    Quote from NursesRmofun
    samadams8,



    "Balance, fairness, support; this is what nursing needs most IMHO".

    That is what nursing needs but not always what she gets or gives....unfortunately.
    Too true Nurses. It's beyond sad to me.

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