artifical nails off..angry nurse - page 7

Hi Everyone..i found this site looking for information on artifical nails and nurses.So,iam a brand new member. I do home health and have had artifical nails on for 18yrs .Dec.30th i was told i was... Read More

  1. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    remember, I do OB. I have seen it all. (well almost)
    The OR is a good place to find out what people do to their bodies as well.
  2. by   Cathie
    Quote from nightcaller
    I think it's rediculous that any workplace would demand that you change any aspect of the way you groom yourself. Whats next? Get your hair cut? No make-up allowed? I'm sick of hearing that fake nails harbor bacteria! If my fingers are harboring bacteria, shame on me! For goodness sakes! I pride myself on being a clean, well manicured and professional woman. I would NEVER put my patients at risk. I ALWAYS protect my patients by wearing gloves, good handwashing, etc. I think it's time that people focus on something else other than well manicured hands. (Whose hands are probably more well cared for and cleaner than those who do not care about what their hands look like I might add). I'd rather have someone with well manicured nails take care of my family than a nurse with bitten up stubs! Do you think they're clean??? Funny how no one tells nurses who bite their nails that they can't do THAT anymore.
    I'm serious when I say that if my place of work demanded that I remove my nails, which I consider to be a personal preference (same as what color I chose my hair to be, etc), I'd have to quit. I'm not in the military, I'm a nurse for goodness sake.





    AND, as a "nurse for goodness sake", you have a responsibility to be professional, if you feel that you can't do the job that is required, and can't follow the dress code most hospitals, and medical facilities have, then my thought for you is GET OUT......... You have a terrible attitude for someone in the medical profession......... And, give those of us that are truely here to be professional and caring a bad name, and I'd rather work short staffed than have someone that can't follow the rules be there with me, where I have to rely on them in a code situation, or any other situation......... Good luck...........
  3. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    I'm sick of hearing that fake nails harbor bacteria!
    The proven truth must be nauseating.

    I'm serious when I say that if my place of work demanded that I remove my nails, which I consider to be a personal preference (same as what color I chose my hair to be, etc), I'd have to quit. I'm not in the military, I'm a nurse for goodness sake.
    Then be understanding the pts.' personal preference might be to refuse you as a nurse because of your nails (especially if that pt. is a nurse as well, and is aware of the studies associaed with them). I've seen it happen before.
  4. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Quote from nightcaller
    I think it's rediculous that any workplace would demand that you change any aspect of the way you groom yourself. Whats next? Get your hair cut? No make-up allowed? I'm sick of hearing that fake nails harbor bacteria! If my fingers are harboring bacteria, shame on me! For goodness sakes! I pride myself on being a clean, well manicured and professional woman. I would NEVER put my patients at risk. I ALWAYS protect my patients by wearing gloves, good handwashing, etc. I think it's time that people focus on something else other than well manicured hands. (Whose hands are probably more well cared for and cleaner than those who do not care about what their hands look like I might add). I'd rather have someone with well manicured nails take care of my family than a nurse with bitten up stubs! Do you think they're clean??? Funny how no one tells nurses who bite their nails that they can't do THAT anymore.
    I'm serious when I say that if my place of work demanded that I remove my nails, which I consider to be a personal preference (same as what color I chose my hair to be, etc), I'd have to quit. I'm not in the military, I'm a nurse for goodness sake.
    '
    please educate yourself. Read some articles and studies on the subject. they are many. if you are unwilling, do us all a favor and stay out of patient care. Please, we don't want you if you are unwilling to practice safely.
  5. by   Kimily
    Quote from Cathie
    AND, as a "nurse for goodness sake", you have a responsibility to be professional, if you feel that you can't do the job that is required, and can't follow the dress code most hospitals, and medical facilities have, then my thought for you is GET OUT......... You have a terrible attitude for someone in the medical profession......... And, give those of us that are truely here to be professional and caring a bad name, and I'd rather work short staffed than have someone that can't follow the rules be there with me, where I have to rely on them in a code situation, or any other situation......... Good luck...........
    Jeesh Cathie your being a little harsh arent you? Pent up hostility? IF you think that being upset because someone is yet again telling us some aspect of our personal life and choices must be changed to accomodate keeping our jobs,is the making of a bad nurse who doesnt follow the rules, then I say your the one being uncaring. People, yes even nurses have different things that make them feel better about themselves, not everyone feels the same way about the same things and that is every persons right, but to call someone non caring and then ultimately imply they must be somehow far less intellingent than you , or less capable in someway. (referring to the CODE comment.) is just mean and it is wrong.

    Artificail nails or not, Im a darn good nurse, wether our opinions differ, or I challenge the system where you do not, does not even come close to making me
    a bad nurse and it doesnt give you the right to imply that someone who does is.
    Frankly , I find it easier to clean longer nails than short ones, which also get bacteria under them , but ultimately anything someone is doing that might bring your nail edges in contact with a pt.s skin , or body fluids should be
    wearing gloves anyway. As with all of us, that is my opinion, Sorry if you feel I came down hard on you. I just think that judging someone the way you did , is not what this forum is made for.
  6. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Quote from Kimily
    Jeesh Cathie your being a little harsh arent you? Pent up hostility? IF you think that being upset because someone is yet again telling us some aspect of our personal life and choices must be changed to accomodate keeping our jobs,is the making of a bad nurse who doesnt follow the rules, then I say your the one being uncaring. People, yes even nurses have different things that make them feel better about themselves, not everyone feels the same way about the same things and that is every persons right, but to call someone non caring and then ultimately imply they must be somehow far less intellingent than you , or less capable in someway. (referring to the CODE comment.) is just mean and it is wrong.

    Artificail nails or not, Im a darn good nurse, wether our opinions differ, or I challenge the system where you do not, does not even come close to making me
    a bad nurse and it doesnt give you the right to imply that someone who does is.
    Frankly , I find it easier to clean longer nails than short ones, which also get bacteria under them , but ultimately anything someone is doing that might bring your nail edges in contact with a pt.s skin , or body fluids should be
    wearing gloves anyway. As with all of us, that is my opinion, Sorry if you feel I came down hard on you. I just think that judging someone the way you did , is not what this forum is made for.
    You, too, could benefit from educating yourself. You know what, its not about anyone "controlling you". I think some maturity is called for her. And a reality check......for example:

    A few years back, 16 infants died in an NICU due to fungi spreading and infecting them, isolated from two nurses with fake nails. It is NOT worth it just cause they are "easier" or "look nice" or you feel you should be "free to dress as you choose". It's about more than that....

    . How would you feel were YOU one of those nurses? I know I would never, ever forgive myself. I also know I would refuse the care of a nurse w/artificial nails, if given the chance to, hands-down. I hope I don't sound harsh.I don't mean to. But some of you folks who insist out of rebellion or vanity really need to educate yourselves more, let the studies and evidence speak for themselves!

    If feel you can't do w/o fake nails, do us all a favor; get a job in an area where no patient contact is possible. Please.
    Last edit by SmilingBluEyes on Feb 6, '05
  7. by   smk1
    Quote from Marie_LPN
    Attention wasn't the reason i heard it was for.:stone:
    me either.... :uhoh21:
  8. by   psalms84
    I don't blame you. I was made to take my nails off at a previous job and it made me mad too. I completely understand your side, really I do!
  9. by   pwp1289
    i work in a veterans hospital and as of march 1st--artificial nails must be removed--an edict from washington--it will apply to all patient care personnel (worker and supervisor alike ) who have even occassional patient contact.i have had art nails for over 20 years, always keep them short,my salons "law" is new sets every 2 months and each client has their own set of files,buffers etc that are kept separate from everyone elses and i have never had trouble with fungus at alll. not even the union could fight the big guys in washington--i will certainly look into all the helpful hints to grow strong nails--and ask my salon what they suggest
  10. by   Marvie
    Quote from nightcaller
    I think it's rediculous that any workplace would demand that you change any aspect of the way you groom yourself. Whats next? Get your hair cut? No make-up allowed? I'm sick of hearing that fake nails harbor bacteria! If my fingers are harboring bacteria, shame on me! For goodness sakes! I pride myself on being a clean, well manicured and professional woman. I would NEVER put my patients at risk. I ALWAYS protect my patients by wearing gloves, good handwashing, etc. I think it's time that people focus on something else other than well manicured hands. (Whose hands are probably more well cared for and cleaner than those who do not care about what their hands look like I might add). I'd rather have someone with well manicured nails take care of my family than a nurse with bitten up stubs! Do you think they're clean??? Funny how no one tells nurses who bite their nails that they can't do THAT anymore.
    I'm serious when I say that if my place of work demanded that I remove my nails, which I consider to be a personal preference (same as what color I chose my hair to be, etc), I'd have to quit. I'm not in the military, I'm a nurse for goodness sake.

    If you claim to NEVER put your patients at risk, them have the lab culture under your acrylic nails and then when you get the results back, then you can act like a primma donna who is indignant of being told to follow rules.
    An OR RN
  11. by   KrisRNwannabe
    I read an article not too long related to the NICU deaths. Originally, it was thought the arificial nails had caused it, however, according to this article it was traced to a jar of hand lotion by the handwashing station. apparently they figure some hands went into the jar before being washed thus contaminating the jar. i will try and find the article again. I swabbed under my nails during micro many different times and not a single thing grew. some of the swabs from under natural nails was scary. and for those wondering why I had my tongue pierced. in the words of the girl who had her belly button pierced i thought it was cute. I have a pink jewel in mine. i like it. I did not get it to gain attention nor for various sex acts. I have checked with my hubby and he notes no difference.

    kris
  12. by   LVN2006
    After going into nursing and looking at the wooleybuggers under the microscope, I don't ever want my nails long again. Just thinking of holding the kids or putting my hand on a sandwich and then into my mouth! oh, i get nauseated thinking about it

    Quote from Lady Sapphire
    Hi Everyone..i found this site looking for information on artifical nails and nurses.So,iam a brand new member.
    I do home health and have had artifical nails on for 18yrs .Dec.30th i was told i was to take them off...so i contacted a nail tech and told her my situation and she (as well as one other salon) told me they were putting a gel(like a hard nail polish) over many of the nurses who had to take their nails off....so this is what i did.
    On Jan.11th while talking to one of my supervisors about some paperwork,,i was reminded i had to take my nails off,,i said these are my own nails with a gel hardner over my nails..she said she would have to check that out...i tried to also with infection control but they never called me back.
    When i returned to work 2 days later,,instead of telling me what they found out,i was written up,and told i could not work that day and was sent home.Iam very angry :angryfire
    I took the gel off,and now my nails are sore ,hands look ugly,i cant peel an orange,scratch..nothing.Iam feeling very helpless and down.
    Has anyone else experienced this when taking off their nails and how did you handle it? Are we not able to even have a gel temporarily over our thin weakened nails,,till the new stronger nails appears?
    Please help as iam writing a rebuttal to this written warning.Thanks
    Lady Sapphire
  13. by   SmilingBluEyes
    I look forward to the day when fake nails will be disallowed unanimously in direct patient care. And I think that day IS coming.....but not soon enough.

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