Nurses Safety
Published Mar 18, 2013
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BuckyBadgerRN, ASN, RN
3,520 Posts
Maybe its a state law type of thing? I know in WI a dental hygenist cannot give a local anesthetic without a DDS on site. The DDS has to remain in the building the entire time the patient is being seen as well.
sunflower918
16 Posts
I've been a phleb for many years; in the hospital where I currently work we take care of both inpatients and outpatients. At our outpatient sites (which are at separate addresses than the main hospital), most of the time we're fine to draw w/out a doc there. However, an outpatient site that I frequently work at takes care of high-risk OB patients. Many of those practitioners prefer that we draw during office hours only. Seems that it's because if a patient reacts badly to a blood draw (seizure, vaso-vagal causing fainting, etc) our only option is to call EMS. Maybe it's the patient population in the doc's office?
lol...in 20 yrs of phlebotomy have rarely needed a doc available for sticks...plus I work for a teaching institution. Can't imagine calling a 1st year for help with much:roflmao:
ksrn20
31 Posts
It might not be so much of the doctor having to supervise but rather a policy set up at that particular office. The office that I work at does not allow patients in unless there is a doctor on site.
Ella26, BSN, RN
426 Posts
At my old job, a doctor had to present when our LPN gave an allergy injection in case of a reaction....maybe it is like that??
I work at an allergy clinic. And our providers/doctors need to be in the clinic for us to give our allergy shots. We really do not have the same specific policy with regards to labs. Our MA's draw the blood not the nurses. But they cant just draw blood on their own, they need "orders" from the Dr. of what to draw. So may be thats it??
netglow, ASN, RN
4,412 Posts
Eh, nice that he's there. If he owns the business, it's good he cares. As a former business owner, I'd understand that.
He could easily be the type where he's off to a ball game for the rest of the afternoon, when you are doing an infusion, or wanting you to give some kind of anesthetic while he's still 10 minutes away so the patient is ready for him when he arrives.. things go fine 9 out of 10 times - then they don't.
ThePrincessBride, MSN, RN, NP
1 Article; 2,594 Posts
I'm a nurse's aide, and I don't have to have anyone present to draw up blood. Weird.
psu_213, BSN, RN
3,878 Posts
The office is owned by a hospital corporation. The doctors there are employees of the system.
Pets to People
131 Posts
I didn't realize a nurse's aide could draw blood, other than a finger stick glucose check?
sapphire18
1,082 Posts
Yup yup, very common. Not everywhere but everywhere I've ever worked.
Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN
1 Article; 20,908 Posts
It sounds to me like something happened that had a bad outcome.
Massive hematoma....patient passed out, hit their head, was on coumadin and ended up with ahead bleed, did CPR on someone who passed out and broke a few ribs, wrong labs labeled with the wrong patient labs and a patient got a blood transfusion with the wrong blood......something happened in that office that was bad and the "corrective action taken" is that they MD will be in the building before labs are done.
I would hope a MD would have to be present with the injection of Lidocaine/novacaine due to anaphylaxis.
Anyone can draw blood if "properly trained" and competence is maintained.
dorrybnursing
76 Posts
When I worked as a PCT we did all the blood draws
bopeep82
44 Posts
It may be the person is working under the doctor's license. I am a phlebotomist and worked in a doctors office. I taught the physician's assistant how to draw blood (yes, I was the victim...I mean teaching specimen). I was dumbfounded that most people are not taught proper phlebotomy techniques. I seriously face palmed myself.