Anyone Certified As An Epic Analyst? - page 4

I am going to the Epic Corp soon to start working on my certification for the Epic System. I have been working as an Epic Analyst/Trainer for a short time, and no one in our group has their... Read More

  1. by   brammy88
    Hi Brownms46-

    My organization is in contract negotiations with Epic right now. Plan is to attend Epic training in Feb. 2010. Do you have any advice for a first time Epic user? I am an ED RN. Last 3 years I have supported ED PulseCheck (Picis) in our ED.

    Thanks

    brammy
  2. by   Bake40
    If you wouldnt mind.. could you give me some insight on what the exam/tests entail. I havent gone to Epic for training yet but I am in a little panic mode since I heard they are difficult and I do not have a technology background. I dont mind studying hard but wonder why only 50% pass.
    thanks
  3. by   jackinthebo
    Looking for EPIC Certification Prelude .. Iam not into Healthcare IT industry but working as a software engineer for the past 15 years . I like to know where i can get training for "EPIC Certification Prelude & other Software products " ? I know EPIC systems Home office is in Middleton , WI .. I checked with them about certification, they mentioned they will give training for only people who are being referred by company . I want to learn/ get certified as private consultant . Any ideas ??

    Please guide me . Thanks in advance .
  4. by   rninformatics
    There are only 2 ways (to my knowledge) of getting certified in any Epic app -
    1) work directly for Epic
    or
    2) work for a healthcare organization (hospital, physician practice, home health agency, etc) or a consulting firm and be sent by that organization for Epic training.
    Short of the above one does not get training on Epic apps as a "private consultant"



    Quote from jackinthebo
    Looking for EPIC Certification Prelude .. Iam not into Healthcare IT industry but working as a software engineer for the past 15 years . I like to know where i can get training for "EPIC Certification Prelude & other Software products " ? I know EPIC systems Home office is in Middleton , WI .. I checked with them about certification, they mentioned they will give training for only people who are being referred by company . I want to learn/ get certified as private consultant . Any ideas ??

    Please guide me . Thanks in advance .
  5. by   jackinthebo
    Thanks for your response . EPIC should make private consultants to learn also .. that's monopoly -



    Quote from rninformatics
    There are only 2 ways (to my knowledge) of getting certified in any Epic app -
    1) work directly for Epic
    or
    2) work for a healthcare organization (hospital, physician practice, home health agency, etc) or a consulting firm and be sent by that organization for Epic training.
    Short of the above one does not get training on Epic apps as a "private consultant"
  6. by   rninformatics
    Technically the type of "monopoly" to which you are referring - control of market supply: "a situation in which one company controls an industry or is the only provider of a product or service" ...........
    does not apply in this situation, as Epic does not control the entire HIS industry nor all HIS applications. There are multiple HIS vendors and as in any other free market industry they can decide who they will sell and or allow to "distribute" their product.
    In this case the knowledge of the Epic app is part of the product. Epic requires that a consultant obtain that "product"/knowledge directly from an organization Epic has authorized to purchase the product and training.

    As I wrote earlier, there are consulting firms that will pay for their consultants to obtain primary Meditech, GE, Epic, etc training but that is becoming rare as its easier to hire someone who already has the specific vendor app training and expertise and or even send that same person for additional vendor training (Epic, Meditech, etc,) rather than someone who has no previous Epic experience......its just good business......

    So the above is no more "a monopoly" than Epic requiring all its employees to live in Wisc. Very similar to Cerner's requiring it's staff to live in Kansas City, MO. Good Luck!


    Quote from jackinthebo
    Thanks for your response . EPIC should make private consultants to learn also .. that's monopoly -
  7. by   jackinthebo
    Thanks for detailed explanation . i was jsut thinking in terms like " SAP" , Oracle financial applications/software which everyone can learn from any college/technical Institution.



    Quote from rninformatics
    Technically the type of "monopoly" to which you are referring - control of market supply: "a situation in which one company controls an industry or is the only provider of a product or service" ...........
    does not apply in this situation, as Epic does not control the entire HIS industry nor all HIS applications. There are multiple HIS vendors and as in any other free market industry they can decide who they will sell and or allow to "distribute" their product.
    In this case the knowledge of the Epic app is part of the product. Epic requires that a consultant obtain that "product"/knowledge directly from an organization Epic has authorized to purchase the product and training.

    As I wrote earlier, there are consulting firms that will pay for their consultants to obtain primary Meditech, GE, Epic, etc training but that is becoming rare as its easier to hire someone who already has the specific vendor app training and expertise and or even send that same person for additional vendor training (Epic, Meditech, etc,) rather than someone who has no previous Epic experience......its just good business......

    So the above is no more "a monopoly" than Epic requiring all its employees to live in Wisc. Very similar to Cerner's requiring it's staff to live in Kansas City, MO. Good Luck!
  8. by   gaylebco
    Quote from Bake40
    If you wouldnt mind.. could you give me some insight on what the exam/tests entail. I havent gone to Epic for training yet but I am in a little panic mode since I heard they are difficult and I do not have a technology background. I dont mind studying hard but wonder why only 50% pass.
    thanks
    Bake 40,
    I went to Madison WI 2 weeks ago and started the steps for ambulatory certification. It depends on what your being certified in. Epic is not the certification but the different areas within your hospital and what you are planning on being certified in.
    With my course, i have 3 trips to Madison each lasting about 3 days. After the classes you are tested on the material from that class, the reading materal and additional information on there web site. The project is actually "doing" the things you learned in class on a training web site. I got the stats at the last class and the numbers were much higher for pass rates. The instructor told us people take the test and if they do poorly they can retake it. a 50% and a 100% give the pass rate of 50%..one passed and one didn't...but that was the same person. Can you see how things can look off with the numbers. Hope this helps.

    Gayle
  9. by   kelll
    I also have been given this opportunity to work with EPIC as an analyst however the pay is a decrease for me and I need to make a decision very very soon. They would also like me to certify in ONC specialty. I feel like this is a nice oppurtunity and I am interested in this field. I would be going from Analyst 1 to 2 soon. any opinions would be appreciated.
  10. by   informaticsBee
    Quote from kelll
    I also have been given this opportunity to work with EPIC as an analyst however the pay is a decrease for me and I need to make a decision very very soon. They would also like me to certify in ONC specialty. I feel like this is a nice oppurtunity and I am interested in this field. I would be going from Analyst 1 to 2 soon. any opinions would be appreciated.
    Did you make a decision?
  11. by   sarahashley
    One of our local hospitals is implementing EPIC and is interviewing for system trainer positions. I've been asked to interview with the CIO and the Software Development Manager and feel pretty clueless since I have no software development experience. I have over 10 years of general trainer experience, to include training IT professionals in non-IT classes, and transitioned into healthcare just 2 years ago and currently work in an ambulatory clinic as an LPN. I really don't feel qualified for the position, and I don't understand why the interest in me. I guess I should feel good about this, and I really want this job, but I'd like to be better prepared for the interview. Can anyone tell me what a system trainer does besides train? According to the job description, I'd be responsible for workflow processes. What exactly is this?
  12. by   rninformatics
    Before you turn the job down - think about this. They (the CIO and the Manager) must see potential in you and the ability to do the job or why would they ask you to interview for it?

    The questions you are asking here related to the role are question you should ask at the interview. Rememer you are also interviewing them. For questions to ask see the stickied topics at the bottom of the this Forum. Related to "work flow processes" see these articles of mine:

    Workflow Part I
    Nursing Informatics & Technology: A Blog for All Levels of Users : Clinical Workflow Analysis & Process Redesign: Part 1

    Workflow Part II
    Nursing Informatics & Technology: A Blog for All Levels of Users : Clinical Workflow Analysis & Process Redesign Part II

    Feel free to give me a call and we can talk in more detail. I would hate for you to miss out an opportunity.




    Quote from sarahashley
    One of our local hospitals is implementing EPIC and is interviewing for system trainer positions. I've been asked to interview with the CIO and the Software Development Manager and feel pretty clueless since I have no software development experience. I have over 10 years of general trainer experience, to include training IT professionals in non-IT classes, and transitioned into healthcare just 2 years ago and currently work in an ambulatory clinic as an LPN. I really don't feel qualified for the position, and I don't understand why the interest in me. I guess I should feel good about this, and I really want this job, but I'd like to be better prepared for the interview. Can anyone tell me what a system trainer does besides train? According to the job description, I'd be responsible for workflow processes. What exactly is this?
  13. by   teearo
    please how can i get certified on EPIC, i was told the training and certificate are meant for direct employee or consultant.


    Quote from Brownms46
    I am going to the Epic Corp soon to start working on my certification for the Epic System. I have been working as an Epic Analyst/Trainer for a short time, and no one in our group has their certification yet. The agency I worked with was small, and they have recently been bought out by a large health system.

    The new health system has offered to send us to WI. for the certification, and we should start in the next month or so. We have been told it is a four part process, but very little else.

    Is there someone who has been thru the process, who could tell me more?

    Thank you in advance for any light you can shed on this process.

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